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  3. New study: AMOC, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, could already start to collapse now (before or around 2025, 25% probability), even under current 'moderate' emission trajectories.

New study: AMOC, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, could already start to collapse now (before or around 2025, 25% probability), even under current 'moderate' emission trajectories.

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  • sustainable2050@mastodon.energyS sustainable2050@mastodon.energy

    Reminder: This bears big risks (25% is a lot) for our energy system: we may have to deal with much colder winters within the lifetime of investments in power systems, heating systems, and (insulation of) homes!
    I started talking about this in the Netherlands in 2016, but it's only slowly sinking in.

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    #7

    Just to be sure: the 'tipping point' discussed here is the *start* of the collapse, which from that point in time is unavoidable, but takes a long time.

    From the paper's Plain Language Summary:
    "If the AMOC starts to collapse, it takes more than 100 years to reach a substantially weaker state. During that transition, the Northwestern European climate would change drastically and is expected to see colder winters, less rainfall, and more severe winter storms."

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      Just to be sure: the 'tipping point' discussed here is the *start* of the collapse, which from that point in time is unavoidable, but takes a long time.

      From the paper's Plain Language Summary:
      "If the AMOC starts to collapse, it takes more than 100 years to reach a substantially weaker state. During that transition, the Northwestern European climate would change drastically and is expected to see colder winters, less rainfall, and more severe winter storms."

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      #8

      So what would happen if AMOC collapsed? Difficult question, but here's a tool to experiment with, by the same authors: https://amocscenarios.org/?lat=52&lon=5.25&model=cc_RCP45&is_amoc_on=false&is_delta=false&metric=temp_1_in_10_yr_min

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        So what would happen if AMOC collapsed? Difficult question, but here's a tool to experiment with, by the same authors: https://amocscenarios.org/?lat=52&lon=5.25&model=cc_RCP45&is_amoc_on=false&is_delta=false&metric=temp_1_in_10_yr_min

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        #9

        An example: at 2°C of global warming, and a collapsed AMOC, the 1-in-10 year minimum daily (24 h average) temperature near Utrecht, the Netherlands, would be -20°C.
        In pre-industrial times (with functioning AMOC) it was -7°C, and at 2°C global warming with functioning AMOC it would have reached -2°C

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          An example: at 2°C of global warming, and a collapsed AMOC, the 1-in-10 year minimum daily (24 h average) temperature near Utrecht, the Netherlands, would be -20°C.
          In pre-industrial times (with functioning AMOC) it was -7°C, and at 2°C global warming with functioning AMOC it would have reached -2°C

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          #10

          With a collapsed AMOC (takes >100 years), sea ice would be back with a vengeance. At 2°C of global warming, and a collapsed AMOC, it would reach down the North Sea halfway down the Dutch coast, to Amsterdam latitude!
          At 2°C of global warming and a functioning AMOC, it would retreat to the far North.

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