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Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

    oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    #7

    @sundogplanets

    Sorry you have to put up with that!

    Before retirement, I never tried "social media". Barely able to keep up with my job and self-inflicted chores, needed no distractions. Also, didn't know what the heck "social media" was. Kids sharing photos of MacDonalds' burgers? Starting blood feuds when "unliked"? What's "liked", anyway?

    Curious, I tried it this year, and I've learned much, and can see the value. Also learned of the diversity of species in this echosystem. 😉

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

      willow@chaosfem.twW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #8

      @sundogplanets For myself (and I run a much smaller account), I tag them #ReplyGuy in my terse response, wait for other mansplainers to pile in, then block them all.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

        vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
        vicgrinberg@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @sundogplanets same reminder to myself 😕 I still do that one last comment - not for the awful people themselves, but for the possibile readers...

        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ 1 Reply Last reply
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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

          jappel@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jappel@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @sundogplanets Strength to your fingers that punch the block button.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

            This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

            notyourfanboy@kolektiva.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            #11

            @sundogplanets
            Let them know why you are blocking them, then just block them.

            Any attempt at a conversation is a waste of time

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

              This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

              phoenixserenity@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #12

              @sundogplanets Yeah, they're not worth your valuable energy. The block button is online self care 💗

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @sundogplanets @cstross please don’t take this as sealioning (it _could_ be something a sealion would ask, but believe me, this is not my intention)

                Where is the limit of ‘honest asking’ or ‘honest trying to explain’ to ‘sealioning’ or ‘mainaplaining’!

                cstross@wandering.shopC hadon@mastodon.socialH 2 Replies Last reply
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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                  This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                  meganl@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #14

                  @sundogplanets May your blocking hand be strong. 👊

                  #9ReplyGuys

                  https://zirk.us/@sbarolo/109384456791661494

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                    fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @sundogplanets personally i find that even the nicest people find it hard to admit they were in the wrong and apologise; we all have so much emotional capital invested in being right these days.

                    so, yes: block early, block often.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                      This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                      andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                      andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #16

                      @sundogplanets What is a sea lion (in this context) 🙂

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                        capnthommo@c.imC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @sundogplanets sea lions?

                        paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP hadon@mastodon.socialH 2 Replies Last reply
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                        • jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ jguillaumes@mastodont.cat

                          @sundogplanets @cstross please don’t take this as sealioning (it _could_ be something a sealion would ask, but believe me, this is not my intention)

                          Where is the limit of ‘honest asking’ or ‘honest trying to explain’ to ‘sealioning’ or ‘mainaplaining’!

                          cstross@wandering.shopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          @jguillaumes @sundogplanets The key point is that sealioning is never done in good faith. It's a time-wasting gambit, not genuine dialog.

                          jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ weebull@qoto.orgW 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                            @jguillaumes @sundogplanets The key point is that sealioning is never done in good faith. It's a time-wasting gambit, not genuine dialog.

                            jguillaumes@mastodont.catJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #19

                            @cstross @sundogplanets yeah, that’s the definition and found a few of them when I trolled flat earthers as a hobby. The thing is written media, specially ‘short’ written media does not give a lot of hints about intention.

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                            • andrewgambrill@mastodon.socialA andrewgambrill@mastodon.social

                              @sundogplanets What is a sea lion (in this context) 🙂

                              sam@chven.usS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #20
                              just looked it up and found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                abraxas3d@defcon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #21

                                @sundogplanets strongly concur. There was this amateur radio dude over at ARISS that barfed up the most amazing sea lion tweets at me, back when Twitter was pretty good. I (very gently) pushed back, explained why the "I'm JuSt AsKiNg QuEsTiOnS yOu ExIsT tO eDuCaTe Me BuT i aLrEaDy MaDe My MiNd Up YoU uNpRoFeSsIoNaL BITCH!!!!" approach was ineffective at best and a deliberate way to power-play/toy with me and waste my time at worst, and he just completely blew up from there. It was ridiculous. It doesn't matter how good a job you do at communicating. That's not why they are there.

                                So, after that, nope. No engagement. If you don't see me as a person (women aren't people to these people) then we just cannot speak again. Blocks are one way to ensure that.

                                Sure, you can make an effort to reach out and make things right, but sea lions never do. Sexist small-pants piggy-faces will go down with that ship, fronting forever that they are the "good guys", just out here "trying to learn". Because this tactic works. Why? Because women are supposed to be "help meets".

                                You know, Helpers. Helping! You're not HELPING if you don't act like a knowledge vending machine and the man has infinite credit. You aren't making it EASY. You're not making me a mental SANDWICH. And you get called names and they dunk on your work and make you pay and fulminate and fester.

                                So, yeah. Block away.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                  This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                  jik@federate.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #22

                                  @sundogplanets I try really hard to call out bad behavior in _other_ people's threads because it lands really differently when it comes from someone other than the target, and I think it's important to be an upstander.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                    This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                    moelassus@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #23

                                    @sundogplanets I appreciate that you make the effort. I was recently blocked by someone I enjoy reading because of a poor attempt at snark that landed poorly. They immediately blocked me with a curt response. I wish I had been given the chance to clarify myself. Many folks are definitely NOT in the mood these days so I’ve holstered my snark.

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                                    • capnthommo@c.imC capnthommo@c.im

                                      @sundogplanets sea lions?

                                      paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #24

                                      @capnthommo It's a form of trolling that involves endless bad-faith questions.

                                      Wikipedia has fuller explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                      @sundogplanets

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                        This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                        bur_d@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #25

                                        @sundogplanets I don't understand this post, what are these mapliners and sealions doing and what are they?

                                        bumblefish@mastodon.scotB jhaas@a2mi.socialJ 2 Replies Last reply
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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Lately I have been trying to tell manplainers and sea lions what they're doing before blocking them, to give them a shot at apologizing. But it almost always results in angry dudes saying obnoxious things, not apologizing, and that doesn't make anyone feel better.

                                          This is just a reminder to myself to block more people.

                                          angiebaby@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #26

                                          @sundogplanets

                                          Just send them a JPEG of a sealion with its mouth open and a fedora photoshopped on its head and mute them. They're hopeless.

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