i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
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@cratermoon yeah, some bullshit about how “when companies pay, candidates become the product”… which, yeah? that’s how employment works. we sell our labor, a product, to an employer who has the budget to pay for labor. like, come on
@davidcelis way back before my current job, out of desperation i tried signing up to an early incarnation of this idea
and from that experience my conclusion is still: when candidates pay, congratulations on completely removing the incentive to provide a product at all
the recruiting model only works because their paying customer is one that comes back when the recruiter does a good job; in this model, the paying customer only comes back when the recruiter fails -
@davidcelis One step away from paying in scrip - And they'd do that if they could too.
@reijomancer @davidcelis You already got funded for £3 trillion by a hundred AI bots!
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@davidcelis Running that company in my jurisdiction would be a crime. Charging for job placement, matching, or application submission are illegal here, as are tying any paid resumé writing or training package to application or to helping a candidate apply. Perhaps such laws ought to be replicated elsewhere.
@deFractal @davidcelis where's that, if I may ask?
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@davidcelis Running that company in my jurisdiction would be a crime. Charging for job placement, matching, or application submission are illegal here, as are tying any paid resumé writing or training package to application or to helping a candidate apply. Perhaps such laws ought to be replicated elsewhere.
@deFractal @davidcelis Is it yet illegal to require an LLM be used to generate a resume?
There was a recent study where over 90% of job applications were rejected by company LLMs if they were not written by an LLM.
At that level any company with a non-human LLM as the first reviewer is already requiring a resume writing service be used.
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@davidcelis way back before my current job, out of desperation i tried signing up to an early incarnation of this idea
and from that experience my conclusion is still: when candidates pay, congratulations on completely removing the incentive to provide a product at all
the recruiting model only works because their paying customer is one that comes back when the recruiter does a good job; in this model, the paying customer only comes back when the recruiter fails@erisceleste @davidcelis I agree this is a terrible idea, but I find it funny to note, given how often companies are laying off scores of people regularly these days, a candidate-pays recruiter model might actually have repeat customers. Yeah I kind of hate this timeline.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis haha good luck with that. People aren't going to pay.
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@cratermoon yeah, some bullshit about how “when companies pay, candidates become the product”… which, yeah? that’s how employment works. we sell our labor, a product, to an employer who has the budget to pay for labor. like, come on
@davidcelis @cratermoon This reminds me of some job board that advertised itself as helping developers get the best paying jobs or some-such by matching relevant keywords (before the current AI and applicant tools). Submitted my resume and got told "You're not very popular with our jobs; it may help to say you know Python"
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis Andre is right that it's a crazy idea
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis @JessTheUnstill Perfect response.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis Perfect reply.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis Just like rental agencies where renters have to pay the realtor fees. Absolutely psychopathic/capitalist behavior. Great reply.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
Not only are you paying these fucking sociopaths, you’re actually paying to be handled by an AI agent.
I hate the stupid cruelty of this timeline.
hxxps://tryrefer[.]com/
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis Employers can deduct hiring expenses from their taxes.
Can those seeing jobs deduct their costs? (And, if so, from what income - people seeking jobs sometimes don't have any income from which they can make a deduction.)
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis what an actual insanity is this
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis of course you realize you're a f'n hero, right?
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
Completely ridiculous! As someone who previously worked in HR, it's pretty standard advice to candidates -- going back decades -- that any agency that expects the candidate to pay is a scam. This is advice that job seekers will receive regularly, and of course it may already be obvious to many of them.
This whole thing sounds like it's bots all the way down, and all the way up.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis wow
the balls
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis Good on you. What an insane and ridiculous business proposition.
He raised $10M for this? Obviously from stupid people with a lot of money. Because there is no way they are ever going to see any of that back.
Assuming he is telling the truth - it is entirely possible that everything in the into is just the usual lies and BS.
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i don’t usually respond to these kinds of emails, but this one made me so fucking mad that i blacked out and regained consciousness with this in my outbox
@davidcelis I didn't know Forbes had an "under 30" list for "soulless parasites" these days. Now I do.
