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I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it.

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  • longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.placeL longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @GossiTheDog I am literally scoring a RAG right now and the dataset returned has the *exact* correct command...

    given that command, the llm still returned totally fabricated nonsense.

    It's nuts all the way down

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    #35

    @Longplay_Games @GossiTheDog For feeding the turtles?

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

      10/10 no notes.

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      #36

      @GossiTheDog
      Searching for anything on the web at this point is like playing a game of telephone...

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      • annethewriter1@universeodon.comA annethewriter1@universeodon.com

        To do internet searches without getting that annoying #AIsummary (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes a large amount of electricity every time), you can add a simple bit of text at the beginning or end of your search query.

        Type “hyphen AI” at the start or end of any search query to not get that annoying AI summary at the top of your search results (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes data center electricity every time).

        For example:
        -ai Names of all four Beatles
        **OR**
        Names of all four Beatles -ai

        #AIprompts #GoogleTricks #AIsummaries #AI #GoogleSearching #GoogleSearch #InternetSearch #SearchEngines #Searches #Googling #AvoidingAI #NoAI

        @thomkennon @GossiTheDog

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        #37

        @AnneTheWriter1 @GossiTheDog
        This is super cool, thanks from us all.
        ✊🖤

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        • guillotine_jones@beige.partyG guillotine_jones@beige.party

          @plaidtron3000 @GossiTheDog
          True, Plaid, except Ai does not have any understanding.

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          #38

          @Guillotine_Jones @GossiTheDog You could read "misunderstands" as "fails to understand", if that helps.

          But it's a distinction without a difference in the outcome.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

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            #39

            @GossiTheDog I often use Google along with other search engines when searching for well-sourced information to add to @wikipedia. Due to the information not yet being present on Wikipedia, it regularly craps itself, either confidently stating nonsense that a novice in the field would know is wrong or giving answers like those of a panicked job interview candidate being thrown a curveball. It is as reliant on the free encyclopedia as Elon's questionably-reworded copy of it.

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

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              #40

              @GossiTheDog

              :snake-eating-its-own-butt:

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              • thomkennon@mastodon.socialT thomkennon@mastodon.social

                @GossiTheDog
                Yeah make sure you become a broken record to friends, fam, students, colleagues, clients anyone you care abt --- ALWAYS scroll down past the "slop at the top" of ALL search results to get to the actual shit underneath.
                🖤✊

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                #41

                @thomkennon @GossiTheDog

                "Oh and did you click the little 🔗 icon to see what the source was? No, I don't trust the answer until I check that and you shouldn't too. What if it's a joke post on reddit that's taken seriously?"

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                • plaidtron3000@jorts.horseP plaidtron3000@jorts.horse

                  @Guillotine_Jones @GossiTheDog You could read "misunderstands" as "fails to understand", if that helps.

                  But it's a distinction without a difference in the outcome.

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                  #42

                  @plaidtron3000 @Guillotine_Jones @GossiTheDog LLMs don’t ’understand’ anything - I much prefer your phrasing!

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

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                    #43

                    Can't believe people are still using Google search engine in 2026 and also using "I googled" as a verb. 😵‍💫 #boycott #google #trumpbootlickers

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                    • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                      @thomkennon @GossiTheDog

                      "Oh and did you click the little 🔗 icon to see what the source was? No, I don't trust the answer until I check that and you shouldn't too. What if it's a joke post on reddit that's taken seriously?"

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                      #44

                      @gbargoud @GossiTheDog
                      Yes was testing that as a possible pointer to real authoritative content - or likely not!

                      The thing this bullshit eclipses is the authority of the crowd we've been accessing for 20+ years w/the 1000 ranking factors from the search algos.

                      They're destroying their product to save their investment in compute.

                      The good news it's also a sign collapse is near & it will be ugly & painful & then there's the other side of chaos we get to rebuild our share worlds together. : )

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                      • thomkennon@mastodon.socialT thomkennon@mastodon.social

                        @gbargoud @GossiTheDog
                        Yes was testing that as a possible pointer to real authoritative content - or likely not!

                        The thing this bullshit eclipses is the authority of the crowd we've been accessing for 20+ years w/the 1000 ranking factors from the search algos.

                        They're destroying their product to save their investment in compute.

                        The good news it's also a sign collapse is near & it will be ugly & painful & then there's the other side of chaos we get to rebuild our share worlds together. : )

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                        #45

                        @thomkennon @GossiTheDog

                        I don't think I have successfully gotten anyone to do that who wouldn't have done it already but I'm definitely going to keep trying

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

                          10/10 no notes.

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                          #46

                          @GossiTheDog
                          WhatsApp AI made the least intelligent reply to a message I was sending & was rude enough to interject without being invited!

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

                            10/10 no notes.

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                            #47

                            @GossiTheDog Everything human-made like literature, music, art etcetera pre-A.I. era is going to be of so much more value.

                            Knowing that it could not be made with the help of or by A.I. is making those things very special.

                            For thousands of years we needed our brains and hands to figure it all out by our selves. How to solve problems.

                            Now we have A.I. as solution that will fix the ultimate problem: us.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

                              10/10 no notes.

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                              #48

                              @GossiTheDog I find it hard to judge people who use ChatGPT, Gemini, or other AIs as a Search Engine, because the average Search Engine uses just as much (if not more) AI, and at this point it's certainly NOT more environmentally friendly to use Google compared to ChatGPT, Claude, etc.

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                                @GossiTheDog Everything human-made like literature, music, art etcetera pre-A.I. era is going to be of so much more value.

                                Knowing that it could not be made with the help of or by A.I. is making those things very special.

                                For thousands of years we needed our brains and hands to figure it all out by our selves. How to solve problems.

                                Now we have A.I. as solution that will fix the ultimate problem: us.

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                                #49

                                @GossiTheDog I even dare to say 'pre-A.I. era' will be a valuable label.

                                #pre_ai_era

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

                                  10/10 no notes.

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                                  spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                                  #50

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  In the old days, 6 degrees of separation was gold standard.

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                                    #51

                                    @engideer @sraars @GossiTheDog

                                    No! You can turn all AI features off in Kagi, and even if you do ask for an AI summary it must be a deliberate action.

                                    Plus their AI responses are heavily referenced with links to sources so you can verify. It's a very different (and refreshing) experience from Google.

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                                    • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                                      @bradbury @GossiTheDog
                                      Please avoid sarcasm. The AI doesn't understand it.

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                                      #52

                                      I can confirm that AI have trouble with sarcasm. Last time I tried being sarcastic to an AI I took a screenshot of its response.

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                                      • annethewriter1@universeodon.comA annethewriter1@universeodon.com

                                        To do internet searches without getting that annoying #AIsummary (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes a large amount of electricity every time), you can add a simple bit of text at the beginning or end of your search query.

                                        Type “hyphen AI” at the start or end of any search query to not get that annoying AI summary at the top of your search results (which usually makes for one more useless thing to scroll through to get to the links you want to see, and which wastes data center electricity every time).

                                        For example:
                                        -ai Names of all four Beatles
                                        **OR**
                                        Names of all four Beatles -ai

                                        #AIprompts #GoogleTricks #AIsummaries #AI #GoogleSearching #GoogleSearch #InternetSearch #SearchEngines #Searches #Googling #AvoidingAI #NoAI

                                        @thomkennon @GossiTheDog

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                                        #53

                                        For a while I used https://www.google.com/search?q= &udm=14 to avoid the AI responses. Later I switched to https://www.ecosia.org/ which at least for now does not use AI by default.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          I just googled something and Google put its AI summary top, which incorrectly used a Facebook post - misinterpreting it. The Facebook post itself was an AI summary of a user post - which AI had also misinterpreted. The result is the Google answer was just total bollocks.

                                          10/10 no notes.

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                                          #54

                                          @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social the search equivalent of that Garfield "why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food" meme

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