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  3. If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check.

If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check.

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  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

    @nina_kali_nina

    will ID checks come to #mastodon too?

    and who will carry them out?

    nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #23

    @charlesdelavalleepoussin well, the answer is "maybe". Some countries, including UK, already require Mastodon servers to perform age checks for the visitors in some situations. It might be that some servers will be forced (by the governments) to either implement age verification or be shut down.

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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      @charlesdelavalleepoussin well, the answer is "maybe". Some countries, including UK, already require Mastodon servers to perform age checks for the visitors in some situations. It might be that some servers will be forced (by the governments) to either implement age verification or be shut down.

      charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #24

      @nina_kali_nina

      Does the "maybe" depend on instance size? or reach?

      Thinking aloud - it can't be instance size because you can theoretically reach people beyond your instance.

      I think age verification is a good thing. If it can be done in a privacy preserving way - and that, for me, is the issue.

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      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

        @nina_kali_nina

        Does the "maybe" depend on instance size? or reach?

        Thinking aloud - it can't be instance size because you can theoretically reach people beyond your instance.

        I think age verification is a good thing. If it can be done in a privacy preserving way - and that, for me, is the issue.

        nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #25

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin the answer, in case of the UK, lies in a 2000-page-long document. The topic is complicated, and I'm not qualified to talk about it in depth, unfortunately.

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        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

          If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

          https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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          #26

          @nina_kali_nina One more reason, to delete my #Discord Account i didnt even used entirely. If I am chatting friends, I am using this old software named #Teamspeak 3.

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          • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

            @nina_kali_nina

            Does the "maybe" depend on instance size? or reach?

            Thinking aloud - it can't be instance size because you can theoretically reach people beyond your instance.

            I think age verification is a good thing. If it can be done in a privacy preserving way - and that, for me, is the issue.

            ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #27

            @charlesdelavalleepoussin @nina_kali_nina Age verification is not in fact a good thing, and it's inherently impossible to implement in a private manner.

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            • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

              @charlesdelavalleepoussin @nina_kali_nina Age verification is not in fact a good thing, and it's inherently impossible to implement in a private manner.

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              #28

              @ariarhythmic @nina_kali_nina

              I'm no expert but we do check age when selling alcohol, vapes or knives in shops.

              In a shop the vendor looks at the ID card but does not keep it.

              That seems to be a proportionate approach.

              Sadly I don't know of anything equivalent in the digital world.

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              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                #29

                @nina_kali_nina

                There's a line in an old punk song that I sing in my head when I see this stuff.

                'The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take'

                Choose to take this, then it's your shit to climb through for a long time. The next choice will be harder.

                Your choices matter to your future. Make an actual choice, an actual active sacrifice.

                Your and you is personal and collective.

                Choose how & who you want to live as. Right choices cost less than easy ones in the end.

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                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                  If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                  https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                  #30

                  @nina_kali_nina please support me 🌿🙏🇵🇸🍉👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

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                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                    If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

                    maltita@neopaquita.esM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #31

                    @nina_kali_nina christ on a bike

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                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                      If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                      https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

                      sonlight@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #32

                      @nina_kali_nina Does anyone find it Curious that ''Palantir'' is an Object of ''Sorcery'' in the Lord of the Rings? who are these guys?🤔

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin the answer, in case of the UK, lies in a 2000-page-long document. The topic is complicated, and I'm not qualified to talk about it in depth, unfortunately.

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                        #33
                        @nina_kali_nina @charlesdelavalleepoussin Basically some countries will no longer have clearnet instances.
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