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Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users. So I blocked him

    medusaskirt@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
    medusaskirt@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #16

    @mcc as in people who use "AI" in some capacity, by some vague definition? Or did he mean literally gen-AI models posting like typical bot accounts but no person managing the model as much as a typical bot account might be?

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    • mausmalone@mastodon.socialM mausmalone@mastodon.social

      @mcc "what are you gonna do? Stab me?"

      mattmerk@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @mausmalone

      @MattMerk (me) enters the chat and stabs him, takes a short bow, and quickly exits.

      @mcc

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users. So I blocked him

        theowashere@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @mcc Read the i as an lower case L and was like wondering what people named Al did, to deserve being excluded

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        • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

          @mcc @Darkasvim do name and not just shame, so we can avoid them

          yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY This user is from outside of this forum
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          #19

          @mirabilos all of this is a misrepresentation of what scott was "trying" to talk about in that thread regendans linked you

          you are best informed if you just read his latests posts since starting that disaster

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          • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

            @mirabilos all of this is a misrepresentation of what scott was "trying" to talk about in that thread regendans linked you

            you are best informed if you just read his latests posts since starting that disaster

            mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            @YinYinFalcon I still have no reference whom people are talking about…

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            • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

              @YinYinFalcon I still have no reference whom people are talking about…

              yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              @mirabilos

              https://social.coop/@scottjenson

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              • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

                @mirabilos

                https://social.coop/@scottjenson

                mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #22

                @YinYinFalcon eh, blocked for posting shit :þ

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                • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                  @YinYinFalcon eh, blocked for posting shit :þ

                  yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #23

                  @mirabilos mission accomplished 🫡

                  I hope the team learns that they need people with actual social education to do these kind of things

                  mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users. So I blocked him

                    catriona@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #24

                    @mcc It's the type of person who yells "You just can't handle disagreement!" at people who are specifically in the middle of disagreeing with them.

                    Even though that makes no sense, they hope (and are, sadly, often correct, although less so on Mastodon) that by doing this, they can reframe the discourse to make them look 'reasonable' and their opponents look unreasonable, and in that way they can manipulate and dominate the conversation.

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                    • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

                      @mirabilos mission accomplished 🫡

                      I hope the team learns that they need people with actual social education to do these kind of things

                      mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #25

                      @YinYinFalcon I don’t understand what team you mean. I had blocked that account ages ago.

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                      • mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org

                        @YinYinFalcon I don’t understand what team you mean. I had blocked that account ages ago.

                        yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #26

                        @mirabilos uh ohh

                        bad news for you then - he's currently "Product Strategy Advisor to Mastodon Core team"

                        I feel he means well but is entirely unsuited to tackle this problem, likely just due to his career path/position of privilege

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                        • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #27

                          @Sagesse @mcc
                          > to post as much AI-slop as they want to [...]
                          > it's their problem not ours
                          It is our problem, a big one. One human setting up the #siliconiac agent is wreaking havoc to the servers, to the users, to the environment, and this way to every user of the Fediverse whether they follow, not follow, mute or block. The troll user can spit some hate here and there, some 20 posts per hour. Single siliconiac agent can do hundreds per minute on many servers, it will follow you to get fatter on your posts to mimic you later, then it eventually will get some followers that are less aware of the evils lurking.

                          > Them being used to being the biggest bully
                          They are. For your as a taxpayer money, for the polluted air you will breathe, for the arid desert made where their silicon bodies now hum.
                          #noai #poisonai

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                          • ohir@social.vivaldi.netO ohir@social.vivaldi.net

                            @Sagesse @mcc
                            > to post as much AI-slop as they want to [...]
                            > it's their problem not ours
                            It is our problem, a big one. One human setting up the #siliconiac agent is wreaking havoc to the servers, to the users, to the environment, and this way to every user of the Fediverse whether they follow, not follow, mute or block. The troll user can spit some hate here and there, some 20 posts per hour. Single siliconiac agent can do hundreds per minute on many servers, it will follow you to get fatter on your posts to mimic you later, then it eventually will get some followers that are less aware of the evils lurking.

                            > Them being used to being the biggest bully
                            They are. For your as a taxpayer money, for the polluted air you will breathe, for the arid desert made where their silicon bodies now hum.
                            #noai #poisonai

                            sagesse@norden.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #28

                            @ohir
                            You're right.
                            I did not mean to disregard these facts.
                            That's why I block AI every way I can. And why I refuse to use it.

                            In this post, I put my focus on the human factor because it was this attitude I found disgraceful.

                            We're on the same page.

                            @mcc

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                            • pattykimura@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #29

                              @retrosponge

                              Bravo!

                              @pomegranate_stew @mcc

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                              • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

                                @mirabilos mission accomplished 🫡

                                I hope the team learns that they need people with actual social education to do these kind of things

                                holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #30

                                @YinYinFalcon @mirabilos He did manage to dig himself a hole, and then just kept on digging.

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                                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                  Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users. So I blocked him

                                  pattykimura@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #31

                                  @mcc I met a Trump guy who started yelling "Free Speech! Free Speech! Where's my right to Free Speech! I got a right to Free Speech!" as I threw him out of my office for yelling. I said "Go yell at the mail box on the sidewalk. There's no Constitutional right to make me listen. Go Free Speech outside. Nobody cares."

                                  It would have so much easier to block him.

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    Encountered a person on Mastodon who said Mastodon should be inclusive of "AI" users. So I blocked him

                                    grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #32

                                    @mcc the brass neck to use the word inclusive! If they said "I want more AI engagement", fine. Not for me, thank you, but they do them. But "inclusive" is a reserved word for the marginalized, not AI bros.

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                                    • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

                                      @YinYinFalcon @mirabilos He did manage to dig himself a hole, and then just kept on digging.

                                      yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #33

                                      @HollieK72 indeed

                                      and it's supposed to become a blog post - wonder if that will go any better

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                                      • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

                                        @HollieK72 indeed

                                        and it's supposed to become a blog post - wonder if that will go any better

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                                        #34

                                        @YinYinFalcon *Orders in some popcorn for when he posts his blog* 🍿

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                                        • yinyinfalcon@mastodon.onlineY yinyinfalcon@mastodon.online

                                          @mirabilos uh ohh

                                          bad news for you then - he's currently "Product Strategy Advisor to Mastodon Core team"

                                          I feel he means well but is entirely unsuited to tackle this problem, likely just due to his career path/position of privilege

                                          mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #35

                                          @YinYinFalcon who cares about shitty Mastodon? It’s a blight on the Fediverse anyway.

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