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  3. generative so-called "AI" is now being used to transcribe and translate Latin manuscripts.

generative so-called "AI" is now being used to transcribe and translate Latin manuscripts.

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  • elilla@transmom.loveE This user is from outside of this forum
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    generative so-called "AI" is now being used to transcribe and translate Latin manuscripts.

    guess the results:
    https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhntbkyadc24

    https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhoqx2xugk24

    cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC elilla@transmom.loveE 2 Replies Last reply
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    • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

      generative so-called "AI" is now being used to transcribe and translate Latin manuscripts.

      guess the results:
      https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhntbkyadc24

      https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhoqx2xugk24

      cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
      cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
      cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com
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      #2

      @elilla (I'd say: derivative* so-called """AI"""; as it actually generates nothing at all)

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      • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

        generative so-called "AI" is now being used to transcribe and translate Latin manuscripts.

        guess the results:
        https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhntbkyadc24

        https://blacksky.community/profile/did:plc:vpepa7tkir7iaia3risvyjc6/post/3mhoqx2xugk24

        elilla@transmom.loveE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

        then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

        some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

        gustodon@mas.toG laprice@beige.partyL cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC tiotasram@kolektiva.socialT securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS 5 Replies Last reply
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        • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

          "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

          then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

          some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

          gustodon@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @elilla 🏆

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          • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

            "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

            then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

            some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

            laprice@beige.partyL This user is from outside of this forum
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            @elilla "signal-shaped noise" is a very apt description. Thank you.

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            • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

              "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

              then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

              some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

              cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
              cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC This user is from outside of this forum
              cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com
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              @elilla A BANGER POST

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              • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

                "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

                then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

                some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

                tiotasram@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                tiotasram@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @elilla I saw a project doing this for NYC council meetings, and brought up the inevitability of mistranscriptions (and bias in whose testimony would be more accurately transcribed). They pushed back saying it was fine and users could submit corrections. I decided to check whether my hypothesis was correct and mistranscriptions were common. I followed an upthread link to a transcription and started reading through to see how long it would take me to spot an error. Literally the next speaker had serious errors in the transcription.

                The kicker: NYC already provides human-taken transcriptions. But these are released "too slowly" and it's "too hard" to even implement a feature to automatically check the machine transcriptions against the human ones when they're available.

                The second kicker: in the video with the error, the human scribe interrupted to ask the speaker to speak louder/more clearly so that they could get an accurate transcript.

                Anyways I got blocked because the project (which aside from using AI for transcription was pretty cool) was super useful for civic engagement and my objections were intolerable.

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                • elilla@transmom.loveE elilla@transmom.love

                  "AI" users are like, "I know this is imprecise but as a convenience these transcriptions are better than nothing"

                  then 70 years from now we'll still be struggling to debunk these entirely hallucinated transcriptions of thousands of manuscripts that were pissed into the pool of human knowledge.

                  some things are worse than nothing. "signal-shaped noise" is worse than nothing.

                  securitywriter@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @elilla I am continuously arguing the accuracy debt angle. I have made significant strides in some areas of building ai 'bulkheads'.

                  Low background radiation steel is a good analogy I use. There is before, and there is after.

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