Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅‍♂️

[mraptronym@mastodon.social]

@fj I am jealous. I live in a US city and work in an office and I swear one in eight of the bankers/office workers in my building drive one of these. The parking is a nightmare. We have a ton of compact spots and these people will just take two. I doubt any of them actually NEED the capabilities of these things either.

[nuwagaba2@mastodon.social]

@Kensan
Isn't their cost so high?

[niavy@masto.bike]

@fj So, you can line up a Twingo and an Aygo behind a Ford pick-up and not being able to see any of those two EU cars

[naturemc@mastodon.online]

@fj Just one simple European answer to US carmakers:

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@jawarajabbi @fj
Sadly enough idiots would buy them and then deaths.

Ban touch screen controls for the driver and retractable door handles.

[andii@mas.to]

@fj
it's simply a case of they won't fit.
In our urban area, we already have problems accommodating the oversized cars on streets built for smaller vehicles. The issues are caused by both parking on kerbsides and trying to drive between vehicles parked both sides.
I honestly don't know why thedrivers put themselves through the hassle of the silent negotiating to get down a street with a vehicle coming the other way -which happens quite often by my observation.
The cost of 'upgrading' ...

[pizzademon@mastodon.online]

@fj https://youtu.be/iWR4AMqfTNA?t=2750

[mim54@mstdn.social]

@fj long may that ban continue

[rich@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@fj wonder why they chose to shrink the car even further than the specified width and height? the point can be made just as (if not more) forcefully if they didn't resort to distorting the relative sizes

[michaelporter@ottawa.place]

@ThreeSigma @richlv @fj @reloadedhead A little old, but still relevant: https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/24139147/suvs-trucks-popularity-federal-policy-pollution

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@mausmalone @Rin3d @fj
Despite the F-350 being slightly taller the visibility is much worse than the van. The Van driver can see a child or short Adult. The driver of an F-350 can't unless quite far off.

[ariarhythmic@ohai.social]

@fj that is not a car

[xs4me2@mastodon.social]

@fj

Simply because they are a hazard.

Dangerous, not needed and not suited for European roads and cities.

[geomaster337@mastodon.social]

@fj I love how the examples are among each brand’s smallest pickup trucks

[notecharlie@social.bigcavemaps.com]

@fj a fair comparison would be with the high-roof mercedes sprinter. Of course, the shortest sprinter van isn't even sold in the US, and is still some 30cm narrower than the F-SuperDuty.

Though I still won't defend how absurdly large our cars are. I want something affordable the size of the old jeep cherokee or a golf estate, and it just doesn't exist on the new market.

[marjolica@social.linux.pizza]

@fj they aren't cars, probably not even trucks, they are HGVs and if we did allow them on our roads you should need a HGV licence to drive them.

[catdragon@mastodon.world]

@reloadedhead @richlv @fj cities and suburban areas = pedestrians.
It used to be that if you unfortunate enough to be hit by a truck it would probably be a survival accident. After all the mass of the grill really only came up a little bit over your hip. Now, if you’re hit by a truck, you’re going to be pulverized. I live in the US and it’s a nightmare. I absolutely will not ride a bicycle in my town anymore because I would be asking to die.

[passwordsarehard4@mastodon.social]

@starlily @mwyman @fj not enough. We got assholes spending $10k to get the emissions devices removed so they can “roll coal” on the libs. It’ll go to gas rations and they’ll find some way to bypass it.

[catdragon@mastodon.world]

@mbirth @reloadedhead @fj can we not use that as a slur?

[bleuyank@mastodon.social]

@fj Completely agree, although European vehicles keep creeping larger and larger. Car shopping recently and I was surprised at how big a Peugeot 3008 had gotten. Width wise, it's 2 cm narrower than a Ford Ranger.