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  • rbmath@mathstodon.xyzR rbmath@mathstodon.xyz

    @Violinknitter huh, I always thought it was the abstract mathematics that made it great.

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    #28

    @rbmath @Violinknitter ok, now I really need to read/watch it ... um, which one are we talking about, exactly?

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    • brahms@chaos.socialB brahms@chaos.social

      @rbmath @Violinknitter ok, now I really need to read/watch it ... um, which one are we talking about, exactly?

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      #29

      @brahms @rbmath If you’re interested in all the math & Victorian jokes, The Annotated Alice is wonderful

      https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-annotated-alice-lewis-carroll/1122986703

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      • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

        @brahms @rbmath If you’re interested in all the math & Victorian jokes, The Annotated Alice is wonderful

        https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-annotated-alice-lewis-carroll/1122986703

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        #30

        @brahms You can also of course find the original Alice in Wonderland text available online for free at sites like Gutenberg & Librivox

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        • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

          Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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          #31

          @Violinknitter Bingo!

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          • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

            Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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            #32

            @Violinknitter @izzy In our 30's and it still feels like that

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            • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

              Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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              #33

              @Violinknitter 💗

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              • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                #34

                @Violinknitter@wandering.shop I finally feel like I understand Alice in Wonderland better, and I relate! ​​

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                • brahms@chaos.socialB brahms@chaos.social

                  @rbmath @Violinknitter ok, now I really need to read/watch it ... um, which one are we talking about, exactly?

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                  #35

                  @brahms @Violinknitter I don't remember all of them, but here is a quick write up I found: https://maths-from-the-past.org/alice-and-algebra/

                  There's a lot more out there on it. If you're looking for the math content, I'd read the original or the book that violinknitter linked, Martin Gardner is amazing.

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                  • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                    Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                    #36

                    @Violinknitter Fuck yes! I remember being dragged around by my parents as a kid.

                    I’m reminded of the tendency for literary analysis and criticism to look for hidden meanings and to judge stories that lack such tea-leaf messages as low quality “genre” fiction.

                    I mean “Hills Like White Elephants” is supposedly about abortion, but I found it utterly pointless, and I’ll never get back the time I wasted reading it.

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                    • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                      Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                      #37
                      @Violinknitter This is a wonderful post
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                      • druid@princess.weddingD druid@princess.wedding
                        @Violinknitter This is a wonderful post
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                        #38

                        @druid I didn’t expect this to get so many views, but roach-works Tumblr post really seems to be resonating with a lot of people over here on Mastodon!

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                        • airwhale@beige.partyA airwhale@beige.party

                          @Violinknitter @janeishly

                          Frankly, Alice in Wonderland also describes so much of my experiences from a career in IT and Business consulting.

                          The White Rabbit is your sponsor, impossible to get hold of. The Doorknob works in Access Management, Tweedledee and Dum run Security and Compliance. The hostility from the Flower Chorus when they learn I am not ”one of them” can be a little hurtful.

                          Now, the Caterpillar is important, he’s got some solid intel, you just need to approach him carefully and with respect.

                          Of course, every damn day is somebody’s un-birthday, so stay clear of the tea party - that’s one crazy thing you can’t ever control or improve. Just the cost of doing business, I guess.

                          The best days on the engagement is when you meet someone who understands you and is willing to help. Find your Chesire Cat early, and you have a chance at success.

                          It’s a brilliant book.

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                          @airwhale @Violinknitter @janeishly Caterpillar is the sysadmin who's been there from when the business was founded. Too old to move on, too young to retire, just the right age to be fed up of this crap

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                          • lunarloony@dosgame.clubL lunarloony@dosgame.club

                            @airwhale @Violinknitter @janeishly Caterpillar is the sysadmin who's been there from when the business was founded. Too old to move on, too young to retire, just the right age to be fed up of this crap

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                            @lunarloony Headcanon accepted

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                            • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                              Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                              #41

                              @Violinknitter

                              Excellent!

                              I say this as someone who did their undergraduate Literature degree thesis on Alice 😻

                              Literally my favourite book ever, and I have never seen the main theme of the book articulated so succinctly 👍

                              Good job @roach-works 😃

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                              • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                                Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                                @Violinknitter

                                every annotated version of Alice in Wonderland: references and nods to politics I guess

                                how kids and kids-at-heart see it: not fucking that

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                                • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                                  Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                                  @Violinknitter

                                  they really do, and dad jokes are the least of it!

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                                  • violinknitter@wandering.shopV violinknitter@wandering.shop

                                    Kids put up with a LOT from adults

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                                    @Violinknitter

                                    Very interesting indeed, thanks !
                                    And it explains why I never liked it : it's not my experience as a child, it very clearly shouldn't be *any* child's experience, and it reeked to me (as a child) as normalizing this sort of experience.

                                    A bit like "Le grand Meaulnes", actually.

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