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  • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jan@social.dytrych.cloud

    @_elena regarding LLMs, it's crazy from developers' perspective. BIG tech is pushing LLMs hard to developers, saying you'll lose job or will be paid less if not using LLMs. That's what they are pushing, my colleague did even said "If you're not going to use it, you'll lose job or will be paid less." My boss doesn't like to use LLM for development, so far so good, but there is huge push and pressure towards it.

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    #138

    @jan @_elena Waiting for the rise of artisanal coding, when people who code without LLMs are paid extra money to provide customized, reliable code.

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    • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

      @gbargoud

      Same!
      I also use content warnings when I answer to a 'puzzle' to not give away the answer 😀

      And then: as a teacher of Adobe software, I usually start the first classes with 'We won't be using AI, what's more: I will show you how to hide all their AI options. You can make them visible again once you have enough skills and knowledge to evaluate their results. You need to learn how to do it first, before you let AI do this automatically."

      Teaching people skills: 💗

      @_elena @trezzer

      jerrej@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #139

      @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

      In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        yoasif@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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        #140

        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I have been posting about this topic -- see https://www.quippd.com/writing/2025/12/17/AIs-unpaid-debt-how-llm-scrapers-destroy-the-social-contract-of-open-source.html for a sample.

        Also boost stuff I see. 🙂

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          thomas@schoffelen.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #141

          @_elena It’s funny, I only really see people who are intensely hardline anti-AI on Mastodon, and only enthusiastic shortsighted AI bros on LinkedIn. Where’s the sensible center? (or people that don’t talk about AI at all, even better!)

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          • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

            @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

            In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

            pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #142

            @jerrej

            AI is Adobe Illustrator 😊
            ID is for InDesign.
            InDesign came much later. It was a clever move to develop it since it took away so many QuarkXpress users. Since InDesign was 'already in the suite' at the time, users quickly took to it.

            @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

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            • jerrej@mastodon.socialJ jerrej@mastodon.social

              @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

              In that context I remember "AI" as Adobe InDesign. Do you?

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              #143

              @jerrej @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena Haha. I didn’t use it myself, but I know exactly what you are referring to.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                jab01701mid@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jab01701mid@mastodon.social
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                #144

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I don't want you to follow me, but I call out and resist "LLM AI" and related intellectual informational slop.
                - It solves no problem I have
                - It is a glorified search engine, not intelligence
                - Pattern matching is not intelligence, ML can be good, but trust it with your life at your peril.
                - All software is "Artificial Intelligence"

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  zambunny@livellosegreto.itZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #145

                  @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Has anyone linked @kenobit ?

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    zarel@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #146

                    @_elena Seems that Alex Hanna is more active at https://dair-community.social/@alex

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      geniodiabolico@mastodon.geniodiabolico.synology.meG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #147

                      @_elena May I nominate myself? I have been using the hashtag #AITeaParty for my efforts to not use it directly or indirectly. I've also blogged yesterday about my depressing experience in going to my first in person developer meeting in years.

                      https://evilgeniuschronicles.org/posts/2026/03/10/just-have-claude-code-it/

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        abucci@buc.ciA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #148
                        Hi! I’d like to nominate myself for your list. I’m not nearly as high-profile as many of the folks that you mentioned or who are being recommended, but I am a practicing computer scientist trained in AI, and I have managed to go viral on LinkedIn with my criticism of AI a few times (haha). I post pretty regularly on the fediverse about AI, usually critically though sometimes "philosophically" or politically.

                        Some blog posts:
                        • The failscene
                        • Another AI Hype Cycle
                        • Word calculators don't add up
                        Some fediverse posts:
                        • AI as “anti imagination”
                        • The problem of thinking of everything as data
                        • An automated scientist would be a random number generator
                        • AI as eating your seed corn
                        I usually hashtag AI posts with #AI #GenAI #GenerativeAI especially to help anyone who wants to mute this stuff.

                        CC: @timnitGebru@dair-community.social @emilymbender@dair-community.social @alexhanna@peertube.dair-institute.org @DAIR@dair-community.social @cwebber@social.coop @jaredwhite@indieweb.social @tante@tldr.nettime.org
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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          x_cli@infosec.exchangeX This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #149

                          @_elena
                          I suppose quitting my job over it yesterday and being quite vocal about it, especially over the last two days could qualify me 😅 I have a history of being actively anti-AI to the point of writing my transcripts and timecode them manually 🫠

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                          • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                            @jerrej

                            AI is Adobe Illustrator 😊
                            ID is for InDesign.
                            InDesign came much later. It was a clever move to develop it since it took away so many QuarkXpress users. Since InDesign was 'already in the suite' at the time, users quickly took to it.

                            @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

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                            #150

                            @pascaline @gbargoud @_elena @trezzer

                            Ooh, I misremebered that! And that was Aldus Freehand of course...

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