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  3. Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial m...

Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial m...

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
    emilymbender@dair-community.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

    https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

    writerethink@wandering.shopW lascapi@social.tchncs.deL osma@sigmoid.socialO forever_archives@mastodon.socialF xchaos@f.czX 6 Replies Last reply
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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

      https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

      writerethink@wandering.shopW This user is from outside of this forum
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      @emilymbender excellent piece (and well-timed for me, as I’m updating my reading list for my “Writing about AI” class…I think I’ll be adding this!)

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

        https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

        lascapi@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
        lascapi@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @emilymbender Thank you for this article! 😌

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

          https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

          osma@sigmoid.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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          @emilymbender Excellent article, thanks!

          Part of the issue is that LLMs often work best when they are prompted to act as a person in a specific role. "You are a skilled X" is a common system prompt type. This kind of roleplaying setting seems to trigger outputs that resemble what a human in the same situation could produce, which is what the user wanted (or at least the best the model could do, within its limitations). So the anthropomorphism cuts deep into the behaviour of the model.

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          • osma@sigmoid.socialO osma@sigmoid.social

            @emilymbender Excellent article, thanks!

            Part of the issue is that LLMs often work best when they are prompted to act as a person in a specific role. "You are a skilled X" is a common system prompt type. This kind of roleplaying setting seems to trigger outputs that resemble what a human in the same situation could produce, which is what the user wanted (or at least the best the model could do, within its limitations). So the anthropomorphism cuts deep into the behaviour of the model.

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            @osma @emilymbender

            We've had students implementing pretty interesting and useful functionality that partially uses LLMs -- and the largest effort of implementation was putting a precise logical task into squishy human words, in order to make a precise logical machine produce a valid solution for the precise problem.

            Neither AI nor informatics are my field but I'm sure this *must* be horribly inefficient. Funny enough, none of the students seemed to agree.

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              @osma @emilymbender

              We've had students implementing pretty interesting and useful functionality that partially uses LLMs -- and the largest effort of implementation was putting a precise logical task into squishy human words, in order to make a precise logical machine produce a valid solution for the precise problem.

              Neither AI nor informatics are my field but I'm sure this *must* be horribly inefficient. Funny enough, none of the students seemed to agree.

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              @osma @emilymbender

              ...although to be fair, this symptom is not new.
              I did my PhD on fluid simulations, and there have always been people around me taking pride in using the largest meshes to run the biggest simulations taking up most resources on the biggest clusters, and some amount of contempt for those who put effort into doing more with less.

              Macho engineers are a thing. Maybe no surprise, that.

              At least I had the better-looking meshes 😎

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

                https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

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                @emilymbender Appreciate this take. I have admittedly always felt uncomfortable with non-human things being called she, her, or using human names, be they boats or Alexa. I think it’s a way of reinforcing relationships that don’t actually exist, which this article excellently illustrates. Thanks for sharing.

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                • forever_archives@mastodon.socialF forever_archives@mastodon.social

                  @emilymbender Appreciate this take. I have admittedly always felt uncomfortable with non-human things being called she, her, or using human names, be they boats or Alexa. I think it’s a way of reinforcing relationships that don’t actually exist, which this article excellently illustrates. Thanks for sharing.

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                  @forever_archives @emilymbender I don't want to argue, but I have to remind you, that there are also other languages and in some them, like ours, are words for non-living, non-human and non-animal things gendered a lot. And In French, there is even no neutral gender...

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                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                    Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

                    https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

                    xchaos@f.czX This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @emilymbender There is word for seeing human faces in non-living things: pareidolia....

                    Maybe the AI craze (or rather: the craze using AI not for what it was intended) is the latest form of pareidolia.

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      Anthropomorphizing language can be cute when applied to your favorite car, but it helps to muddy the discourse when applied to tech sold as "AI", especially given all the boosters and AGI-cult members peddling their nonsense about imminent artificial minds. New from me & Nanna Inie on Tech Policy Press -- how to spot & revise away from anthropomorphizing language applied to "AI":

                      https://www.techpolicy.press/we-need-to-talk-about-how-we-talk-about-ai/

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                      @emilymbender thank you for the article. I wish I would have known about before I flew out to visit University of Washington last year. Loved the people and the campus! Thank you for all that you do!

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                      • xchaos@f.czX xchaos@f.cz

                        @forever_archives @emilymbender I don't want to argue, but I have to remind you, that there are also other languages and in some them, like ours, are words for non-living, non-human and non-animal things gendered a lot. And In French, there is even no neutral gender...

                        js@snac.lab8.czJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        stačí zrušit minulý čas 🙂

                        CC: @forever_archives@mastodon.social @emilymbender@dair-community.social
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