Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena Yeah, the delay can be intolerable at times. But we do what we can!
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena An actual Artificial Intelligence! A hive mind of help!
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@_elena An actual Artificial Intelligence! A hive mind of help!
@nakdim YES! Much better because there is no vibe coding here, just REAL technical expertise
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena tech fedi really has that 2010ish Twitter vibe, made so many friends and contacts back in the day and love hanging around with the people
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@_elena An actual Artificial Intelligence! A hive mind of help!
Doug Engelbart (RIP) referred to such phenomenon as "collective IQ" (see: https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/172/) while attempting to adapt the crude nomenclature of his era.
Furthermore it was estimated that each additional perspective, contributed an additional 80 IQ points to the collective IQ, and that this was additive in nature.
JCR Licklider, helped grant (D)ARPA funding to SRI (Stanford Research Institute) after he heard about Engelbart's so-called: "Mother of All Demos" (1968, e.g. https://archive.org/details/motherofalldemos_reel1 ) for NLS (oNLine System, later more widely known as the Intergalactic Network of Computers aka Internet after some unwieldy intermediary naming of (D)ARPANet ).
Trivia: According to John Deneen (https://icannwiki.org/John_Deneen) Doug was terminated by SRI after his presentation (apparently SRI's management did not like the diversity of individuals Doug was attempting to include in his research group and tacitly it was understood that once Doug burned through the $250k or so that his grant afforded him in the Augment/NLS group and had given his presentation, they [SRI] would let him go), and was quietly re-hired after JCR Licklider approached them for (D)ARPA funding (so much for management's desires, when more money came knocking at their door!).
Many years later, JCR Licklider dropped such funding after speaking with Doug and being disappointed to hear that the Augment/NLS team had recently hired people (incidentally at the time, I think they were women?) to help train new users. JCR Licklider, apparently believed that A"I" should be training the users in how to use the systems without humans. To paraphrase Engelbart in an interview conducted by Robert X. Cringely many years later recounting that incident : "It's been a few decades since then and I have still never encountered a computer system which could teach its users how to use it without human intervention."
It's probably worth noting that SRI had cross-licensing agreements with SAIL (Stanford Artificial Intelligence Lab) and Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) so it's not as if Engelbart and his collaborators were operating in a vacuum devoid of state of the art A"I" implementations, quite the opposite.
It has been estimated by some that we only ever realized approximately 3% of the vision Engelbart had imagined for NLS. Yet, it seems plainly obvious to me now, as it presumably did to Doug then: real intelligence comes from other living beings, not LLMs and Markov mimicry.
CC: @_elena@mastodon.social
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena i dont get responses nearly as fast, whats your secret?
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Doug Engelbart (RIP) referred to such phenomenon as "collective IQ" (see: https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/172/) while attempting to adapt the crude nomenclature of his era.
Furthermore it was estimated that each additional perspective, contributed an additional 80 IQ points to the collective IQ, and that this was additive in nature.
JCR Licklider, helped grant (D)ARPA funding to SRI (Stanford Research Institute) after he heard about Engelbart's so-called: "Mother of All Demos" (1968, e.g. https://archive.org/details/motherofalldemos_reel1 ) for NLS (oNLine System, later more widely known as the Intergalactic Network of Computers aka Internet after some unwieldy intermediary naming of (D)ARPANet ).
Trivia: According to John Deneen (https://icannwiki.org/John_Deneen) Doug was terminated by SRI after his presentation (apparently SRI's management did not like the diversity of individuals Doug was attempting to include in his research group and tacitly it was understood that once Doug burned through the $250k or so that his grant afforded him in the Augment/NLS group and had given his presentation, they [SRI] would let him go), and was quietly re-hired after JCR Licklider approached them for (D)ARPA funding (so much for management's desires, when more money came knocking at their door!).
Many years later, JCR Licklider dropped such funding after speaking with Doug and being disappointed to hear that the Augment/NLS team had recently hired people (incidentally at the time, I think they were women?) to help train new users. JCR Licklider, apparently believed that A"I" should be training the users in how to use the systems without humans. To paraphrase Engelbart in an interview conducted by Robert X. Cringely many years later recounting that incident : "It's been a few decades since then and I have still never encountered a computer system which could teach its users how to use it without human intervention."
It's probably worth noting that SRI had cross-licensing agreements with SAIL (Stanford Artificial Intelligence Lab) and Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center) so it's not as if Engelbart and his collaborators were operating in a vacuum devoid of state of the art A"I" implementations, quite the opposite.
It has been estimated by some that we only ever realized approximately 3% of the vision Engelbart had imagined for NLS. Yet, it seems plainly obvious to me now, as it presumably did to Doug then: real intelligence comes from other living beings, not LLMs and Markov mimicry.
CC: @_elena@mastodon.social@teajaygrey amazing, thanks for sharing this
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@_elena tech fedi really has that 2010ish Twitter vibe, made so many friends and contacts back in the day and love hanging around with the people
@kevin true! I can't wait for FOSDEM 🥳
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@_elena i dont get responses nearly as fast, whats your secret?
@RabiesGirl @_elena 11k followers
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@RabiesGirl @_elena 11k followers
@eQRoeil @RabiesGirl this happened this morning on my GoToSocial account (2k followers)... so lower threshold needed for superior tech advice
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena Yes this is a great place here!
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena Meanwhile I heard a story yesterday that this elderly woman can't even cancel a subscription that her partner bought for facebook before he passed away... All she gets when she calls the support is bots bots bots ... Meta is trash
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena i think this also has a lot to do with who is asking and how.
"kindness is a boomerang"thank you for being the kind person that (i think *) you are
*) not knowing you IRL
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Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena
Admittedly, half that advice is “you should switch to Linux” even if you’re using Linux, but still. -
@_elena
Admittedly, half that advice is “you should switch to Linux” even if you’re using Linux, but still.@ThreeSigma @_elena I came here to say that, except I wasn't going to say "half." I've basically given up requesting technical help on social media for exactly that reason.
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@_elena i think this also has a lot to do with who is asking and how.
"kindness is a boomerang"thank you for being the kind person that (i think *) you are
*) not knowing you IRL
@slink true!
And I try to be kind and to teach my little one that kindness is the most important thing...
I have been telling her this quote by Maya Angelou many many times:
"People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"
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@_elena
Admittedly, half that advice is “you should switch to Linux” even if you’re using Linux, but still. -
Whenever I ask for technical assistance on the Fediverse, I get multiple offers of help within a minute.
Solutions in under 5 minutes.
There's nothing quite like it.
I'm just so grateful for you all
️@_elena not the same for everyone though.
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