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  • kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.netK kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.net

    @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice See, that's where we disagree. In my world, 1+1 will always equal 2. And if we want to value human over machine-generated things, then we should try not to leave reason behind as the first measure, because that's our common human denominator. But do in your world whatever you want.

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    #121

    @kingsgambit @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice I don't know why you keep wheeling out this 1+1 thing as if LLMs aren't notorious for screwing up basic maths.

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    • kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.netK kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.net

      @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice See, that's where we disagree. In my world, 1+1 will always equal 2. And if we want to value human over machine-generated things, then we should try not to leave reason behind as the first measure, because that's our common human denominator. But do in your world whatever you want.

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      #122

      @kingsgambit @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice And while that pattern matching is nice, it comes at the cost of massive impact to the environment. Not a price worth paying, especially these days.

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      • nurglerider@mastodon.socialN nurglerider@mastodon.social

        @kingsgambit @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice And again, as an AI bro, you make a post as though you are some profound thinker, focusing on some nonsense as an example while continuously ignoring the *PROBLEMS* of AI.

        What is being touted as "Artifical Intelligence" is no such thing. It's an algorithm that is really good at pattern matching from source material. ALL of that source material is created by human beings. The "AI" can't create it can only steal.

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        #123

        @nurglerider @kingsgambit @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice

        Evil cannot create. Only steal and corrupt that which is good.

        -- J.R.R. Tolkein.

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        • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

          @kingsgambit @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice I don't know why you keep wheeling out this 1+1 thing as if LLMs aren't notorious for screwing up basic maths.

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          #124

          @DamonWakes @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice And I am getting desperate on why you guys can not understand the purpose of an analogy. Another try: If the code is correct, it's correct.

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          • kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.netK kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.net

            @DamonWakes @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice And I am getting desperate on why you guys can not understand the purpose of an analogy. Another try: If the code is correct, it's correct.

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            #125

            @kingsgambit @DamonWakes @nurglerider @davidgerard @libreoffice Have fun on the slop/slot machines. I'll stick to the real world where I use my own brain and dont outsource it all to a 3rd party fascist war-mongering llm company. (not an analogy)

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            • nurglerider@mastodon.socialN nurglerider@mastodon.social

              @kingsgambit @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice And again, as an AI bro, you make a post as though you are some profound thinker, focusing on some nonsense as an example while continuously ignoring the *PROBLEMS* of AI.

              What is being touted as "Artifical Intelligence" is no such thing. It's an algorithm that is really good at pattern matching from source material. ALL of that source material is created by human beings. The "AI" can't create it can only steal.

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              #126

              @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @DamonWakes @libreoffice Alright, I don't see much sense in continuing this discussion, have a nice day though, y'all.

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              • kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.netK kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.net

                @DamonWakes @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice And I am getting desperate on why you guys can not understand the purpose of an analogy. Another try: If the code is correct, it's correct.

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                #127

                @kingsgambit @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice I understand the purpose of an analogy perfectly well. I also understand why yours consistently fail to make the point you want them to.

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                • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                  Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                  Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                  #128

                  @libreoffice that’s very disappointing.

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                  • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @kingsgambit @nurglerider @peach @davidgerard @libreoffice I understand the purpose of an analogy perfectly well. I also understand why yours consistently fail to make the point you want them to.

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                    #129

                    @DamonWakes @libreoffice

                    Ah, and why is that so? Go on, make a point. Can you even summarise mine, so I can be sure you're even trying to understand my point?

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                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                      #130

                      @libreoffice Well, thanks for letting me know, actually, I don't use such software very often and so hadn't noticed. It is a pity I will have to stop using your software at all.

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                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                        #131

                        @libreoffice That's a "follow" from me! 😌 💕

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                        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                          #132

                          @libreoffice Response towards fresh allegation would be appreciated

                          https://raphus.social/@MaddieM4/117513231532012154

                          Or, if being straightforward: https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/bbb785af22564993c7d715b0c57880fe474ee517

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                          • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                            Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                            Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                            #133

                            @libreoffice Welp guess I'm going back to Notepad and save myself a few dollars

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                            • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                              Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                              Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                              #134

                              @libreoffice fucking cowards

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                              • wannabe_alarmist@mastodon.socialW wannabe_alarmist@mastodon.social

                                @libreoffice Response towards fresh allegation would be appreciated

                                https://raphus.social/@MaddieM4/117513231532012154

                                Or, if being straightforward: https://github.com/LibreOffice/core/commit/bbb785af22564993c7d715b0c57880fe474ee517

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                                #135

                                @wannabe_alarmist @libreoffice

                                There is a response. It wasn't great IMHO, but I'll let you make up your own mind.

                                https://mastodon.opencloud.lu/@paolo/117517525025388177

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                                • kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.netK kingsgambit@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @DamonWakes @libreoffice

                                  Ah, and why is that so? Go on, make a point. Can you even summarise mine, so I can be sure you're even trying to understand my point?

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                                  #136

                                  @kingsgambit @libreoffice No. I find it funnier to imagine you asking an LLM what 1+1 is, then confirming its accuracy with a calculator, all while insisting the rest of us are getting left behind.

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                                  • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                                    @kingsgambit @libreoffice No. I find it funnier to imagine you asking an LLM what 1+1 is, then confirming its accuracy with a calculator, all while insisting the rest of us are getting left behind.

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                                    #137

                                    @DamonWakes @libreoffice alright, so no point made, just internet blah blah and patting yourself on the bias back. Bye then!

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                                    • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                      Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                      Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                                      #138

                                      @libreoffice All LLM-generated code is slop, by definition.

                                      Do not use fascist tools.

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                                      • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                        Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                        Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                                        #139

                                        @libreoffice 🥲

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                                        • libreoffice@fosstodon.orgL libreoffice@fosstodon.org

                                          Reminder: #LibreOffice includes no AI features in the software. It doesn't rewrite your content, train algorithms, or share your data. There is zero AI functionality in the app.

                                          Regarding the use of LLMs in the development process, we have a strict policy about this: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/AI_policy – Contributors who use such tools must be able to explain EVERY changed line of code. We do not accept any "slop".

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                                          #140

                                          @libreoffice@fosstodon.org I use Libreoffice so I want to give the benefit of doubt but I am bit concerned here.

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