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  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

    lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @infobeautiful

    Can we see a map where it's flipped? I mean where the south is made bigger just as now the north is. Just to have a comparison of what we have been looking at all the time.

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    • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

      @infobeautiful

      Can we see a map where it's flipped? I mean where the south is made bigger just as now the north is. Just to have a comparison of what we have been looking at all the time.

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      #3

      @lokjo @infobeautiful it's not an issue about north vs south.
      The difference in size comes from the distance to the equator.

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      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

        toddhorowitz@fediscience.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @infobeautiful I think all projections distort size and shape, so I'm not sure "true country size" is meaningful here.

        tsukkitsune@is.nota.liveT catflyhigh@troet.cafeC 2 Replies Last reply
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        • toddhorowitz@fediscience.orgT toddhorowitz@fediscience.org

          @infobeautiful I think all projections distort size and shape, so I'm not sure "true country size" is meaningful here.

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          #5

          @toddhorowitz @infobeautiful

          Sure, projecting a quasi-spheroid onto a plane will always cause distortions, but you can choose what to distort. Mercator keeps compass bearings and distorts shapes. The Albers Equal-Area projection, among others, keeps sizes but distorts shapes much more. Anyway, you can always calculate the surface area of land. In fact many countries in the world have been quite thoroughly surveyed.

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          • x_tof@verkehrswende.socialX x_tof@verkehrswende.social

            @lokjo @infobeautiful it's not an issue about north vs south.
            The difference in size comes from the distance to the equator.

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            #6

            @x_tof @infobeautiful

            Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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            • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

              @x_tof @infobeautiful

              Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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              #7

              @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful also, the southern hemisphere looks a lot more impressive in Mercator if you don't hide the Antarctic!

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              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                #8

                @infobeautiful there's one thing Mercator is good for: timezones. For all other purposes, there are better projections.

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                • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                  Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                  https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                  #9

                  @infobeautiful ah sure Greenland is TINY.

                  Denmark should just hand it over and quit this dog in the manger stuff.

                  /s

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                  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                    Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                    https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                    #10

                    @infobeautiful

                    Author of this map:
                    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/people/neil-kaye

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                    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                      Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                      https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                      #11

                      @infobeautiful

                      The USA isn't that big, let's invade it!

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                      • lokjo@mapstodon.spaceL lokjo@mapstodon.space

                        @x_tof @infobeautiful

                        Ah yes, I thought the equator was the height of northern africa but it's in middle africa.

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                        #12

                        @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful

                        No wonder human perception is so flawed with such input. I too had a misconception of where the equator fell on Africa. I'm glad the link does put Antarctica in perspective on a subsequent map. GIGO

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                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                          #13

                          @infobeautiful always interesting to see how different maps tell different stories

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                          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                            Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                            https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                            #14

                            @infobeautiful equal earth should be official

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                            • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                              Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                              https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                              #15

                              @infobeautiful
                              Just learned something.

                              On the typical Map, that I had in school, the size of nealry every country was wrong.

                              Thx for this.

                              Now I have a new rabit-hole...

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                              • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                #16

                                @infobeautiful MAGAmoron must use Mercator Projection when boasting to underage girls about his dick.

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                                • toddhorowitz@fediscience.orgT toddhorowitz@fediscience.org

                                  @infobeautiful I think all projections distort size and shape, so I'm not sure "true country size" is meaningful here.

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                                  #17

                                  @toddhorowitz @infobeautiful

                                  Greenland's land area is approximately six times the size of Germany. Greenland has roughly the same size as Saudi Arabia. The USA is rougly 5 times bigger than Saudi Arabia.)
                                  (I have heard this this week and just verified it with wikipedia, I found this comparison helpful)

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                                  • stevefaeembra@mapstodon.spaceS stevefaeembra@mapstodon.space

                                    @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful also, the southern hemisphere looks a lot more impressive in Mercator if you don't hide the Antarctic!

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                                    #18

                                    @stevefaeembra @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful
                                    This one substitutes the Prime Meridian for the equator. (Hilarity ensues)

                                    https://ena.our-dogs.info/facts-pin.html#google_vignette

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                                    • osteopenia_powers@newsie.socialO osteopenia_powers@newsie.social

                                      @stevefaeembra @lokjo @x_tof @infobeautiful
                                      This one substitutes the Prime Meridian for the equator. (Hilarity ensues)

                                      https://ena.our-dogs.info/facts-pin.html#google_vignette

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                                      #19

                                      @Osteopenia_Powers @stevefaeembra @x_tof @infobeautiful

                                      Not sure if this is the link you wanted to post.

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                                      • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                        Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                        https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                        #20

                                        @infobeautiful there's an excellent episode of Map Men about this (all their videos are excellent)
                                        https://youtu.be/jtBV3GgQLg8

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                                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                                          Yet another reason to tut at the Mercator map projection
                                          https://brilliantmaps.com/mercator-vs-true-size/

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                                          #21

                                          @infobeautiful

                                          They gave some Eastern Canada provinces to the US. Don't comply in advance!

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