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Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized?

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  • megamichelle@a2mi.socialM megamichelle@a2mi.social

    @cwebber

    Bluesky is decentralized because it keeps all the data in de center.

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    @MegaMichelle blue is cold so it must help with datacenter cooling bills

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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      @cwebber Oooh good question! Uhhh so basically Fediverse is based on the concept of a federation, which is a form of hegemonic imperialism and therefore not decentralised.

      Whereas BlueSky runs in the cloud, which is a distributed computing system and thus decentralised.

      Hope this helps! Feel free to ask me if you have any more questions.

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        If you are also on Blue Sky, I am asking over there, feel free to help spread the word here or there https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dyyvywontyeuaegemczcushz/post/3lmwkq433ec2x

        We will get to the bottom of this

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        @cwebber Hi Christine,

        I did some digging through some back issues of CU Amiga, and I think I've figured out the answer!

        It turns out, this BlueSky thing is indeed part of a decentralised network, and it's called the Internet!

        Now, I know what you're thinking: What is this internet thing, and how is it different to the BBSes that I've been dialling into, using my home microcomputer?

        Well, it turns out that the files on your local computer user group's BBS are typically all stored on the one computer.

        But the internet is like a worldwide network of BBSes!

        People are calling it an information superhighway!

        You can start "surfing" from one BBS to another.

        You can be in Canada and connect over the Internet to a BBS in Germany!

        Is your mind blown yet?

        It's compatible with all the popular microcomputers, including IBM Compatibles, Apple Macintosh, Commodore Amiga, Acorn Archimedes, and Atari ST.

        Beyond viewing overseas BBSes, there's a range of fun things you can find on the web, including newsgroups, gophers, MUDs, MOOs, and electronic mail!

        And now... BlueSky!

        Some people say the internet won't catch on. But I saw it running on one of the Solaris workstations at a local university, and I have to say it looked pretty spiffy!

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          @cwebber Hi Christine,

          I did some digging through some back issues of CU Amiga, and I think I've figured out the answer!

          It turns out, this BlueSky thing is indeed part of a decentralised network, and it's called the Internet!

          Now, I know what you're thinking: What is this internet thing, and how is it different to the BBSes that I've been dialling into, using my home microcomputer?

          Well, it turns out that the files on your local computer user group's BBS are typically all stored on the one computer.

          But the internet is like a worldwide network of BBSes!

          People are calling it an information superhighway!

          You can start "surfing" from one BBS to another.

          You can be in Canada and connect over the Internet to a BBS in Germany!

          Is your mind blown yet?

          It's compatible with all the popular microcomputers, including IBM Compatibles, Apple Macintosh, Commodore Amiga, Acorn Archimedes, and Atari ST.

          Beyond viewing overseas BBSes, there's a range of fun things you can find on the web, including newsgroups, gophers, MUDs, MOOs, and electronic mail!

          And now... BlueSky!

          Some people say the internet won't catch on. But I saw it running on one of the Solaris workstations at a local university, and I have to say it looked pretty spiffy!

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          #101

          @aj this is a good answer

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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            #102

            @cwebber@social.coop I don't know if anyone's researched that question yet. You could be a pioneer if you investigate it!

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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              #103

              @cwebber Not sure if this is one of those “humor” things humans sometimes do, but you don’t need blogposts to answer that question. The answer is a simple “no”.

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              • phillycodehound@indieweb.socialP phillycodehound@indieweb.social

                @cwebber it isn’t as far as I know. Though Bluesky plans on be decentralized as far as I know.

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                #104

                @cwebber https://sethgoldstein.me/in-my-opinion-bluesky-will-never-federate-and-thats-concerning/

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                  #105

                  @cwebber
                  @niccolove 's blogpost:
                  https://thelibre.news/why-i-recommend-against-bluesky/

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                  • janbeta@chaos.socialJ janbeta@chaos.social

                    @cwebber Many of its users are in different places, thus totally decentralized!

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                    @janbeta @cwebber this is completely wrong. Decentralization means mostly that the servers that contains and redirect the data of the social are phisically situated in different places. Where users are is not significant at all. Bluesky IS NOT DECENTRALIZED.
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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                      @cwebber bluesky IS NOT DECENTRALIZED. And it would cost a fortune to make it so.
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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        If you are also on Blue Sky, I am asking over there, feel free to help spread the word here or there https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dyyvywontyeuaegemczcushz/post/3lmwkq433ec2x

                        We will get to the bottom of this

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                        #108

                        @cwebber

                        I liked this answer that you received on Bluesky, which I'm duplicating in Mastodon so people don't need to go to Bluesky to find it:

                        https://phillipjreese.com/the-social-network-that-cant-sell-out-understanding-mastodon-vs-bluesky/

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                          @cwebber

                          this post may help:
                          How Does BlueSky Work?, by @steveklabnik.com

                          https://steveklabnik.com/writing/how-does-bluesky-work/

                          > One of the reasons I am enthusiastic about BlueSky is because of the way that it works. So in this post, I am going to lay out some of the design and the principles behind this design, as I understand them. I am not on the BlueSky team, so these are my takes only.

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                          • mister_shade02x2@mastodon.socialM mister_shade02x2@mastodon.social

                            @cwebber Not sure if this is one of those “humor” things humans sometimes do, but you don’t need blogposts to answer that question. The answer is a simple “no”.

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                            #110

                            @mister_shade02X2 thanks I don't know what a humor is either so this helps

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                            • phillycodehound@indieweb.socialP phillycodehound@indieweb.social

                              @cwebber https://sethgoldstein.me/in-my-opinion-bluesky-will-never-federate-and-thats-concerning/

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                              #111

                              @phillycodehound a real blogpost thank you

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                              • thibaultmol@en.osm.townT thibaultmol@en.osm.town

                                @cwebber
                                @niccolove 's blogpost:
                                https://thelibre.news/why-i-recommend-against-bluesky/

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                                @thibaultmol @niccolove thank you, not only a blogpost,, but a blogpost that cites blogposts

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                                • esparta@fosstodon.orgE esparta@fosstodon.org

                                  @cwebber

                                  this post may help:
                                  How Does BlueSky Work?, by @steveklabnik.com

                                  https://steveklabnik.com/writing/how-does-bluesky-work/

                                  > One of the reasons I am enthusiastic about BlueSky is because of the way that it works. So in this post, I am going to lay out some of the design and the principles behind this design, as I understand them. I am not on the BlueSky team, so these are my takes only.

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                                  @esparta @steveklabnik.com thank

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                    #114

                                    @cwebber you should ask that hot chick who’s working on spritely goblins

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                                    • bri_seven@queer.partyB bri_seven@queer.party

                                      @cwebber you should ask that hot chick who’s working on spritely goblins

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                                      @bri_seven there might be more than one

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                                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                        @vmstan @lgsp someone should fix it

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                                        @cwebber @vmstan @lgsp i tried to make it look more modern idk if it does

                                        https://mkljczk.pl/uploads/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
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