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  • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

    @cwebber no but if they add Twitters hexagon cryptobro profile pictures it will become decentralized

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    @shadowwwind oh I guess they should add them then

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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      #51

      @cwebber bluesky is B-centralized, that is to say your node is best physically hosted in a hive of bees, so you can get the two B’s: Bad posts and Best honey

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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        #52

        @cwebber
        Yes.

        But also no.

        Maybe?

        *bites into breakfast apple*
        *chews pensively*

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          @Sobex this makes sense, you can't centralize a sky

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          #53

          @cwebber No, but you can centralize clouds, which is why it's called The Cloud

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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            #54

            @cwebber It's decentralised in that the moderation of user accounts is distributed across all legal jurisdictions in the Global North.

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            • brownpau@mastodon.socialB brownpau@mastodon.social

              @cwebber bluesky is B-centralized, that is to say your node is best physically hosted in a hive of bees, so you can get the two B’s: Bad posts and Best honey

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              #55

              @brownpau Is that why they're under a B-corp

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                #56

                @cwebber If you look closely, you'll see that it's not centralized, it's skewed slightly off-center to the right and up. Typical measurement mistake.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                  @cwebber

                  As I understand it:

                  ATProto is built to be decentralized. Right now, Bluesky is a company that both originated the protocol and is building a platform on it, so the impact is that it is functionally centralized as there is only one implementation on only one platform.

                  But if someone else built an ATProto implementation then it would no longer be only Bluesky, and then it would be decentralized.

                  Again, as I understand it.

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                    @cwebber

                    As I understand it:

                    ATProto is built to be decentralized. Right now, Bluesky is a company that both originated the protocol and is building a platform on it, so the impact is that it is functionally centralized as there is only one implementation on only one platform.

                    But if someone else built an ATProto implementation then it would no longer be only Bluesky, and then it would be decentralized.

                    Again, as I understand it.

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                    @quintessence we just need two then

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                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                      @cwebber why do you do this to yourself?

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                      • jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ jorgecandeias@mastodon.social

                        @cwebber why do you do this to yourself?

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                        #60

                        @jorgecandeias do what

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                        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                          @quintessence we just need two then

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                          @cwebber

                          Correct + 🤔

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                          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                            @woozle is the webbing to catch the lemmings

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                            @cwebber

                            As you may know, having no doubt researched the long history of your family name, a "lemmer" was traditionally someone who worked with lemmings -- most often the trainer in charge of herding them over cliffs to enable dramatic footage for Disney nature "documentaries".

                            With the passage of time, this practice came to be seen as cruel and inhumane, and agencies dedicated to the preservation of wildlife began training workers to gently and safely capture the lemmers in web-netting and return them to their native habitats -- thus creating the role of "lemmer webber".

                            (In those days, of course, many individuals were known by their given name plus their role in society; as formal recordkeeping became more ubiquitous, however, these surnames became detached from social roles and were simply inherited. It is thus possible now for, e.g., a person with the last name "Webber" -- in olden times most commonly used for those who created web content or wrote web software -- to be in a profession which has nothing at all to do with the World Wide Web.)

                            This important part of our natural history is rarely mentioned and yet is essential to an understanding of how we have become a more humane society (until this year, anyway, but that's another story).

                            #SplainingAsAService #LowQualityFacts

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                            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                              Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                              @cwebber not so much de- as re-centralized. you see bluesky started when a bunch of people were on a plane going to a blues fest and texting each other. Later they decided to create a place to share their wit and bon mots with the world.

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                                @cwebber not so much de- as re-centralized. you see bluesky started when a bunch of people were on a plane going to a blues fest and texting each other. Later they decided to create a place to share their wit and bon mots with the world.

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                                @cwebber but if you are on bluesky you should know this ... Oh I see what you did there you minx!

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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                  @cwebber

                                  Christine.

                                  We have talked about this before.

                                  You really need to do your own research, and not ask random strangers on the internet.

                                  Also: you need to stop posting that type of question, because everyone at work is now wondering why I am laughing so hard! 😉

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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    @quintessence we just need two then

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                                    @cwebber @quintessence

                                    Voila

                                    https://skylight.social/

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                      @cwebber

                                      Define „decentraliced“

                                      This can mean different things.

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                                      • expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.socialE expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.social

                                        @cwebber

                                        Define „decentraliced“

                                        This can mean different things.

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                                        @expertenkommision_cyberunfall I wil define it

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                                        • jdw@cosocial.caJ jdw@cosocial.ca

                                          @cwebber @quintessence

                                          Voila

                                          https://skylight.social/

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                                          @jdw @quintessence decentralization is saved, thank you

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