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    for 27 dage siden

    @cwebber

    As I understand it:

    ATProto is built to be decentralized. Right now, Bluesky is a company that both originated the protocol and is building a platform on it, so the impact is that it is functionally centralized as there is only one implementation on only one platform.

    But if someone else built an ATProto implementation then it would no longer be only Bluesky, and then it would be decentralized.

    Again, as I understand it.

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    cwebber@social.coop
    wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
    #58

    @quintessence we just need two then

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    • C cwebber@social.coop
      for 27 dage siden

      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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      jorgecandeias@mastodon.social
      wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
      #59

      @cwebber why do you do this to yourself?

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      • J jorgecandeias@mastodon.social
        for 27 dage siden

        @cwebber why do you do this to yourself?

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        cwebber@social.coop
        wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
        #60

        @jorgecandeias do what

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        • C cwebber@social.coop
          for 27 dage siden

          @quintessence we just need two then

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          wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
          #61

          @cwebber

          Correct + 🤔

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          • C cwebber@social.coop
            for 27 dage siden

            @woozle is the webbing to catch the lemmings

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            wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
            #62

            @cwebber

            As you may know, having no doubt researched the long history of your family name, a "lemmer" was traditionally someone who worked with lemmings -- most often the trainer in charge of herding them over cliffs to enable dramatic footage for Disney nature "documentaries".

            With the passage of time, this practice came to be seen as cruel and inhumane, and agencies dedicated to the preservation of wildlife began training workers to gently and safely capture the lemmers in web-netting and return them to their native habitats -- thus creating the role of "lemmer webber".

            (In those days, of course, many individuals were known by their given name plus their role in society; as formal recordkeeping became more ubiquitous, however, these surnames became detached from social roles and were simply inherited. It is thus possible now for, e.g., a person with the last name "Webber" -- in olden times most commonly used for those who created web content or wrote web software -- to be in a profession which has nothing at all to do with the World Wide Web.)

            This important part of our natural history is rarely mentioned and yet is essential to an understanding of how we have become a more humane society (until this year, anyway, but that's another story).

            #SplainingAsAService #LowQualityFacts

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            • C cwebber@social.coop
              for 27 dage siden

              Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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              rcriii@hostux.social
              wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
              #63

              @cwebber not so much de- as re-centralized. you see bluesky started when a bunch of people were on a plane going to a blues fest and texting each other. Later they decided to create a place to share their wit and bon mots with the world.

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              • R rcriii@hostux.social
                for 27 dage siden

                @cwebber not so much de- as re-centralized. you see bluesky started when a bunch of people were on a plane going to a blues fest and texting each other. Later they decided to create a place to share their wit and bon mots with the world.

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                rcriii@hostux.social
                wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                #64

                @cwebber but if you are on bluesky you should know this ... Oh I see what you did there you minx!

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                • C cwebber@social.coop
                  for 27 dage siden

                  Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                  paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
                  wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                  #65

                  @cwebber

                  Christine.

                  We have talked about this before.

                  You really need to do your own research, and not ask random strangers on the internet.

                  Also: you need to stop posting that type of question, because everyone at work is now wondering why I am laughing so hard! 😉

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                  • C cwebber@social.coop
                    for 27 dage siden

                    @quintessence we just need two then

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                    jdw@cosocial.ca
                    wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                    #66

                    @cwebber @quintessence

                    Voila

                    https://skylight.social/

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                    • C cwebber@social.coop
                      for 27 dage siden

                      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                      expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.social
                      wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                      #67

                      @cwebber

                      Define „decentraliced“

                      This can mean different things.

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                      • E expertenkommision_cyberunfall@mastodon.social
                        for 27 dage siden

                        @cwebber

                        Define „decentraliced“

                        This can mean different things.

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                        cwebber@social.coop
                        wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                        #68

                        @expertenkommision_cyberunfall I wil define it

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                        • J jdw@cosocial.ca
                          for 27 dage siden

                          @cwebber @quintessence

                          Voila

                          https://skylight.social/

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                          cwebber@social.coop
                          wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                          #69

                          @jdw @quintessence decentralization is saved, thank you

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                          • C cwebber@social.coop
                            for 27 dage siden

                            Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                            puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social
                            wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                            #70

                            @cwebber@social.coop yea it's decentralized because arrogant pricks on the internet say so. hope this helps ​​

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                            • P puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social
                              for 27 dage siden

                              @cwebber@social.coop yea it's decentralized because arrogant pricks on the internet say so. hope this helps ​​

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                              wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                              #71

                              @puppygirlhornypost2 @cwebber@social.coop pseudo-centralized in practice

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                              • C cwebber@social.coop
                                for 27 dage siden

                                Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                #72

                                @cwebber@social.coop It's not decentralized because you can not host your own independent server using the Bluesky "AT Protocol".

                                I have no sources because it is impossible to prove something that doesn't exists.

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                                • C cwebber@social.coop
                                  for 27 dage siden

                                  Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                  internic@mathstodon.xyz
                                  wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                  #73

                                  @cwebber At the risk of asking a serious question, what's the deal with all these alternative ATProto apps? Are there any that have significant independent infrastructure?

                                  https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/04/beyond-bluesky-these-are-the-apps-building-social-experiences-on-the-at-protocol/

                                  I'm guessing that the answer is that they mostly share the same infrastructure and just provide a different AppView and possibly a different lexicon (not sure that's the right term) as far as the data they store and can interact with. But given that I have a very limited understanding of how Bluesky works under the hood, I'd be interested in a (much) more knowledgeable perspective.

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                                  • C cwebber@social.coop
                                    for 27 dage siden

                                    Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                    per_sonne@ciberlandia.pt
                                    wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                    #74

                                    @cwebber

                                    It's "decentralized" but only has one, very central, instance.

                                    So...it's like claiming you have a multicoloured pencil box, but with only one blue pencil inside, no other pencils available and no plans to provide them.

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                                    • C cwebber@social.coop
                                      for 27 dage siden

                                      Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                      maryjane@social.coletivos.org
                                      wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                      #75

                                      @cwebber Please!Do your own research to find the blogposts you wrote! 😛

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                                      • C cwebber@social.coop
                                        for 27 dage siden

                                        Could someone please explain to me whether Bluesky is decentralized? Maybe send me some blogposts. Thanks!

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                                        justin@toot.io
                                        wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                        #76

                                        @cwebber it's "semi" bridged to the Fediverse, but it's opt-in I believe, you have to follow the bridge to enable it.

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                                        • R rcriii@hostux.social
                                          for 27 dage siden

                                          @cwebber not so much de- as re-centralized. you see bluesky started when a bunch of people were on a plane going to a blues fest and texting each other. Later they decided to create a place to share their wit and bon mots with the world.

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                                          mishavanmollusq@sfba.social
                                          wrote for 27 dage siden sidst redigeret af
                                          #77

                                          @rcriii @cwebber

                                          BlueSky so beyond The Cloud

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