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Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

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  • eirikmyhr@sunny.gardenE eirikmyhr@sunny.garden

    @jwz Attended a wedding yesterday. Met an old friend who was like «So, I am currently experiencing a lot with making AI music. I have to ask you as a composer how you feel about this?» I could only facepalm as loudly as possible and ask if we could please, PLEASE talk about something else. Weddings are supposed to be happy! Wish I had this card.

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    #68

    @eirikmyhr @jwz
    Gah. I was at a human composed opera a while ago and was similarly taken aback:
    https://mas.to/@DenOfEarth/115902160023911740

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    • T twigpi@mastodon.social

      @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

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      #69
      @twigpi @jwz You are knowingly mixing up LLMs (which are impossible to train locally and without breaking consent/copyright by using half of internet for training, even if already trained model is possible to be run locally), non-ML algorithms (which are not what people are talking about when mentioning AI, nobody is like, angry at Akinator for being "AI", because expert systems aren't related to any of "Generative AI" issues), and a simpler neural network that can be realistically made at home and doesn't output training data in any way (though modern incarnation of it is usually mixed up with LLMs and used for surveillance)
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      • sdrhoernchen@chaos.socialS sdrhoernchen@chaos.social

        @curltoes 1) social media, and yes, mastodon as well, has 2 sides, ONLY 2 sides, and no middle ground - a "lets take a reasonable stance here" would not get boosted by the hype and engagement machine 2) you're engaging with someone wearing a MAGA hat, this one just says NO AI, so you gotta manage your expectations here..

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        #70

        @SDRHoernchen *plonk*

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        • T twigpi@mastodon.social

          @jwz I've run an offline llm on my computer. I've programmed response logic for enemies in games and played chess and other games aganst a computer. I've used text and image recognition and benefitted from an image cropping tool guessing where I wanted to crop to.

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          #71

          @twigpi cool story bro

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

            I had some cards printed up.

            These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

            Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
            https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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            #72

            @jwz
            But...why not talk about?

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            • dngrs@chaos.socialD dngrs@chaos.social

              @twigpi cool story bro

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              #73

              @dngrs Why thank you.

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              • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                @Walruths @jwz Yeah, that's not how ai works. Maybe learn what you're actually fighting for so you don't damage the cause by being an [!].

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                #74

                @twigpi @jwz I wasn't aware they were growing the models out of the dirt. What methods are used to create the free models from nothing?

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                  I had some cards printed up.

                  These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                  Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                  https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                  #75

                  @jwz I agree with the sentiments on these and would hand them out *if* they didn't have the word mother****er" on them.

                  I do not use speech like that. I believe that using a cuss shows a lack of vocabulary. By saying that I am not passing any judgement over anyone else. It is my personal feelings for myself and nobody else.

                  If you change them, I'd be happy to print some out.

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                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                    Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                    I had some cards printed up.

                    These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                    Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                    https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                    #76

                    @jwz That's the good stuff.

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                    • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                      @twigpi @jwz I wasn't aware they were growing the models out of the dirt. What methods are used to create the free models from nothing?

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                      #77

                      @Walruths @jwz Better get with the time and educate yourself.

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                      • T twigpi@mastodon.social

                        @Walruths @jwz Better get with the time and educate yourself.

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                        #78

                        @twigpi @jwz >still dancing around the argument

                        This is why I don't argue with religious people.

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                        • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                          @twigpi @jwz >still dancing around the argument

                          This is why I don't argue with religious people.

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                          #79

                          @Walruths @jwz Maybe learn how to argue properly?

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                          • ag7gm@mastodon.radioA ag7gm@mastodon.radio

                            @jwz I agree with the sentiments on these and would hand them out *if* they didn't have the word mother****er" on them.

                            I do not use speech like that. I believe that using a cuss shows a lack of vocabulary. By saying that I am not passing any judgement over anyone else. It is my personal feelings for myself and nobody else.

                            If you change them, I'd be happy to print some out.

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                            #80

                            @AG7GM "Fuck you", he explained.

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                            • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                              @twigpi @jwz

                              Asterisk

                              All, in its totality.

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                              #81

                              @Walruths @jwz Do you have any idea how long ai has been around?

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                              • holliek72@mastodonapp.ukH holliek72@mastodonapp.uk

                                @jwz I'm pleased to note that where the cards say "YOU MAKE ME LONG FOR THE SWIFT EMBRACE OF DEATH" that they don't specify WHOSE death.

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                                #82

                                @HollieK72 @jwz It would be jwz because that would run a mile from me 😏

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                                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                  @AG7GM "Fuck you", he explained.

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                                  #83

                                  @jwz Ok then. Thanks for your kind consideration, friend.

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                    I had some cards printed up.

                                    These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                    Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                    https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                    #84

                                    @jwz naaa this is another bad joke…

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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                      I had some cards printed up.

                                      These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                      Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                      https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                      #85

                                      @jwz The replies to posts stating that AI stans are tedious motherfuckers invariably demonstrate that AI stans are, indeed, tedious motherfuckers.

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                                      • coriopsicologia@mastodon.socialC coriopsicologia@mastodon.social

                                        @jwz I love it. Now I need to translate it to Spanish

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                                        #86

                                        @CorioPsicologia
                                        Hey, I had the same idea! Please share if you do.
                                        @jwz

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                                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                          Do Not Talk To Me About "AI"

                                          I had some cards printed up.

                                          These are unlikely to change any minds, but they will defintely shorten some incredibly tedious conversations at the bar.

                                          Here's a PDF if you'd like some of your own.
                                          https://jwz.org/b/yk-o

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                                          #87

                                          @jwz You are awesome. Thank you.

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