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  • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

    @levi @signalapp all their server are on : Amazon, Google, Microsoft (the 3 give money to the orange nazi).

    And they lied on the fact they are forced to use them (as if no alternative exist).

    I won't support Nazi nor liar, so signal can disapear i don't care.

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    #5

    @lexinova @levi @signalapp what alternative exists in your opinion?

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    • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

      @signalapp Never give a cent to liar that are sold to nazi tough GAFAM

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      #6

      @lexinova @signalapp Not everything can change overnight. It will happen gradually. I understand, and it annoys me too, but not everything can change at the snap of a finger.
      But don't be too extreme by jumping to conclusions too quickly. I know you won't like this, and I'm truly sorry.

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      • rapshodyinblue@piaille.frR rapshodyinblue@piaille.fr

        @lexinova @signalapp Not everything can change overnight. It will happen gradually. I understand, and it annoys me too, but not everything can change at the snap of a finger.
        But don't be too extreme by jumping to conclusions too quickly. I know you won't like this, and I'm truly sorry.

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        #7

        @RapshodyInBlue @lexinova @signalapp How many alternatives you looked into... like none?

        There's Briar and Session, for starters. Both are federated and don't require your phone number, unlike Signal.

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        • wildlyfist@kolektiva.socialW wildlyfist@kolektiva.social

          @RapshodyInBlue @lexinova @signalapp How many alternatives you looked into... like none?

          There's Briar and Session, for starters. Both are federated and don't require your phone number, unlike Signal.

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          #8

          @wildlyfist @RapshodyInBlue @signalapp Deltachat or simplex are the first two that come to mind. so alt exist

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          • wildlyfist@kolektiva.socialW wildlyfist@kolektiva.social

            @RapshodyInBlue @lexinova @signalapp How many alternatives you looked into... like none?

            There's Briar and Session, for starters. Both are federated and don't require your phone number, unlike Signal.

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            #9

            @wildlyfist @lexinova @signalapp There are certainly better options out there, but Signal is one of the least worst.
            The perfect world does not exist (yet).

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            • rapshodyinblue@piaille.frR rapshodyinblue@piaille.fr

              @wildlyfist @lexinova @signalapp There are certainly better options out there, but Signal is one of the least worst.
              The perfect world does not exist (yet).

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              #10

              @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp No funding War crime is not an option.

              Or you are for war crime in that case see you in the hague when the nazi are out of US

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              • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp No funding War crime is not an option.

                Or you are for war crime in that case see you in the hague when the nazi are out of US

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                #11

                @lexinova @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp Your instance accepts donations via Ko-Fi and Patreon, both of which are US-based companies that route payments through other US-based companies like PayPal or Google. If renting infrastructure from US companies is considered supporting the "dumb orange" (which indeed sucks), then your instance is doing the same. By that standard, the entire internet would be disqualified. I would also like Signal in the #EU or something, but it is what it is.

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                • piratenpanda@norden.socialP piratenpanda@norden.social

                  @lexinova @levi @signalapp what alternative exists in your opinion?

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                  #12

                  @piratenpanda @lexinova @levi @signalapp
                  Threema. Session. Element/Matrix 🤔

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                  • mcbaumwolle@mastodon.socialM mcbaumwolle@mastodon.social

                    @lexinova @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp Your instance accepts donations via Ko-Fi and Patreon, both of which are US-based companies that route payments through other US-based companies like PayPal or Google. If renting infrastructure from US companies is considered supporting the "dumb orange" (which indeed sucks), then your instance is doing the same. By that standard, the entire internet would be disqualified. I would also like Signal in the #EU or something, but it is what it is.

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                    #13

                    @mcbaumwolle @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp but my instance do not give money to the us administration cronie ...

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                    • datislogitsch@mastodon.socialD datislogitsch@mastodon.social

                      @piratenpanda @lexinova @levi @signalapp
                      Threema. Session. Element/Matrix 🤔

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                      #14

                      @Datislogitsch @lexinova @levi @signalapp we're not talking about alternatives to Signal but alternatives to the infrastructure needed for the userbase they have

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                      • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                        @mcbaumwolle @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp but my instance do not give money to the us administration cronie ...

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                        #15

                        @lexinova @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp Neither does Signal. 😘
                        Edit: Haha I'm already blocked.

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                        • mcbaumwolle@mastodon.socialM mcbaumwolle@mastodon.social

                          @lexinova @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp Neither does Signal. 😘
                          Edit: Haha I'm already blocked.

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                          #16

                          @mcbaumwolle @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp so Google Amazon and microsoft did not give money to trump ?, seem you either cannot read, or you are more delusional that expected, sorry but i block you i don't talk to nazi

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                          • piratenpanda@norden.socialP piratenpanda@norden.social

                            @Datislogitsch @lexinova @levi @signalapp we're not talking about alternatives to Signal but alternatives to the infrastructure needed for the userbase they have

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                            #17

                            @piratenpanda @Datislogitsch @levi @signalapp no we don't, they refused any change to their pro nazi actual service.

                            So now it's signal that must die.

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                            • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                              @mcbaumwolle @RapshodyInBlue @wildlyfist @signalapp so Google Amazon and microsoft did not give money to trump ?, seem you either cannot read, or you are more delusional that expected, sorry but i block you i don't talk to nazi

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                              #18

                              @lexinova careful with mentioning simplex, you're giving free advert to this guy : https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1970940288828105139#m
                              https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1978365927121965120#m

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                                @lexinova careful with mentioning simplex, you're giving free advert to this guy : https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1970940288828105139#m
                                https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1978365927121965120#m

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                                #19

                                @likoris how many time must i say i freacking don"t care WHO develop a software or what HE SHE think ?

                                If it's open source and do not fund nazi / warcrime it's not my problem.

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                                • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                                  @wildlyfist @RapshodyInBlue @signalapp Deltachat or simplex are the first two that come to mind. so alt exist

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                                  #20

                                  @lexinova You wanna talk about nazis but you clearly haven't looked into SimpleX's founder...

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                                  • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                                    @likoris how many time must i say i freacking don"t care WHO develop a software or what HE SHE think ?

                                    If it's open source and do not fund nazi / warcrime it's not my problem.

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                                    #21

                                    @lexinova
                                    no no you don't understand: dude is #TommyRobinson fan, posting about #TommyRobinson all the time; it's like the violent british nazi trolls, plus extreme transphobia and climatedenial.

                                    actual nazi = bad

                                    there are good decentralzed apps like #deltachat and #briar. you really don't want people to join a new #nazi-run network, trust me.

                                    https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-flee-telegram-encrypted-app-simplex/

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                                    • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                                      @lexinova
                                      no no you don't understand: dude is #TommyRobinson fan, posting about #TommyRobinson all the time; it's like the violent british nazi trolls, plus extreme transphobia and climatedenial.

                                      actual nazi = bad

                                      there are good decentralzed apps like #deltachat and #briar. you really don't want people to join a new #nazi-run network, trust me.

                                      https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-flee-telegram-encrypted-app-simplex/

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                                      #22

                                      @pelle So because bad people use a tool the tool is bad ?

                                      What kind of logic is this ?

                                      you know mastodon have nazi instance ?

                                      so why are people remain here is all tool used by them are bad ?

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                                      • lexinova@toot.communityL lexinova@toot.community

                                        @pelle So because bad people use a tool the tool is bad ?

                                        What kind of logic is this ?

                                        you know mastodon have nazi instance ?

                                        so why are people remain here is all tool used by them are bad ?

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                                        #23

                                        @lexinova
                                        it is not only that nazis use it. it is nazi founded. check the twitter profile linked at the bottom of the simplex founder's webpage.
                                        https://www.poberezkin.com/about.html

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