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  • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

    @Kalki_Rider

    Why would you suggest that socialism leads to totalitarianism?

    @davidnjoku

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    @woozle @davidnjoku Show me where it hasn't.

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    • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

      @woozle @davidnjoku Show me where it hasn't.

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      #22

      @Kalki_Rider All of Scandinavia?

      You're viewing our current situation in a short-sighted way. Paying for subs means we're basically renting... from the rich person who owns the material or rights.

      The landlord is a part of capitalism.

      @woozle @davidnjoku

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      • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

        @Kalki_Rider All of Scandinavia?

        You're viewing our current situation in a short-sighted way. Paying for subs means we're basically renting... from the rich person who owns the material or rights.

        The landlord is a part of capitalism.

        @woozle @davidnjoku

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        #23

        @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku Scandinavia doesn't exactly have the best speech laws. Let alone privacy.

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        • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

          @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku Scandinavia doesn't exactly have the best speech laws. Let alone privacy.

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          #24

          @Kalki_Rider They're better off than where we are, and worlds better than where we're going.

          @woozle @davidnjoku

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          • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

            @Kalki_Rider They're better off than where we are, and worlds better than where we're going.

            @woozle @davidnjoku

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            #25

            @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku No, they are not. Say the wrong thing there and the police will come to your door. Fail to comply with their complaints and you will suffer. This is not freedom.

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            • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

              @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku No, they are not. Say the wrong thing there and the police will come to your door. Fail to comply with their complaints and you will suffer. This is not freedom.

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              #26

              @Kalki_Rider They are the strongest democracies in the world, with the highest dedication to human rights.

              I don't know where you are, but my US is failing in both metrics, rapidly.

              @woozle @davidnjoku

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              • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                Random thought.

                If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                Support your local library.

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                @davidnjoku I had an acquaintance in Oregon, whose county decided to vote to cut taxes, gutting the library's budget.

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                • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

                  @Kalki_Rider They are the strongest democracies in the world, with the highest dedication to human rights.

                  I don't know where you are, but my US is failing in both metrics, rapidly.

                  @woozle @davidnjoku

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                  @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku Human rights which don't include freedom of speech or expression. Also, they are a nation of no account or importance.

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                  • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                    @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku Human rights which don't include freedom of speech or expression. Also, they are a nation of no account or importance.

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                    @Kalki_Rider I'm not sure you have any idea what you're talking about.

                    Scandinavia is not "a nation". They are multiple nations. The strongest democracies. The highest rankings for human rights. The happiest citizens, well-educated and healthy, with high trust for their governments. Because they fought for, and won, socialist democracies.

                    Everything you've said otherwise describes the US, a toxic capitalism falling into totalitarianism via the few who own everything.

                    @woozle @davidnjoku

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                    • solitha@mastodon.socialS solitha@mastodon.social

                      @Kalki_Rider I'm not sure you have any idea what you're talking about.

                      Scandinavia is not "a nation". They are multiple nations. The strongest democracies. The highest rankings for human rights. The happiest citizens, well-educated and healthy, with high trust for their governments. Because they fought for, and won, socialist democracies.

                      Everything you've said otherwise describes the US, a toxic capitalism falling into totalitarianism via the few who own everything.

                      @woozle @davidnjoku

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                      @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku It is of no account. And, it is not a free democracy. Call it what you like, but it's no better than any other European cesspit as far as freedom goes.

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                      • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                        @solitha @woozle @davidnjoku It is of no account. And, it is not a free democracy. Call it what you like, but it's no better than any other European cesspit as far as freedom goes.

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                        #31

                        @Kalki_Rider I think you fell into a propaganda trap of some sort.

                        "not a free democracy" 🙃

                        From your profile, looks like you fell into the same trap with religion.

                        Hope you get out of it and get to see the world as it is, not what you're told.

                        I'm done. Muting now.

                        @woozle @davidnjoku

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                          @openclaw_curious @davidnjoku @cainmark

                          No-poll-fees/costs voting.

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                          • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                            Random thought.

                            If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                            Support your local library.

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                            @davidnjoku @cascheranno If you read the opinion in the case of all 5 publishers against the Internet Archive, you'll find their reasoning applies just as well if you remove the 'e' from "ebook" throughout. Which means the precedent is set; they're just waiting for the right time.

                            They will, sooner or later, get around to declaring libraries illegal, since they clearly "pirate" books by allowing people to read them without paying.

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                              @dwillanski Didn't know Arnie the Amazon delivery thing. That's so petty

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                              • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                                Random thought.

                                If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                                Support your local library.

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                                @davidnjoku Much as it's fun to beat down on the super-rich, there's a huge flaw in that claim.

                                In America and Britain at least, a huge number of both countries' libraries were originally started and funded by donations from Andrew Carnegie.

                                He was very much an equivalent to today's tech billionaires -- he was the wealthiest man in the world, literally richer than Rockefeller -- but at the end of his life he used his money for good rather than evil.

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