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  • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

    the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

    europlus@social.europlus.zoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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    europlus@social.europlus.zone
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    #17

    @love paternalism run rampant.

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    • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

      the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

      sortius@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @love American puritanicalism strikes again

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      • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

        the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

        mowenzi@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @love This has also bothered me in work. I teach independence and employability skills to groups of students eith sever to mild learning difficulties and many have sensory impairments. Due to their difficulties, they have often been infantalised at school so it frustrates me when swearing, which is appropriate to the content and for their ages, is missed on the captions.

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        • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

          the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

          charlotte@akko.chir.rsC This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @love they are also starting to rephrase what is being said, so not only are entire words missing they don’t even match what the youtuber is saying

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          • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

            the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

            aperture@snug.moeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @love yeah it always bothers me this is like rule number one about subtitling shit, you subtitle it exactly as it is

            you dont correct grammar, you dont censor words you dont like, it is your job to just transcribe what you hear into text

            bugs me so much when people take different approaches

            -carrie

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            • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

              the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

              nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @love

              The audience being children is not a valid reason to censor swear words either!

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              • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                djgummikuh@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                djgummikuh@mastodon.social
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                #23

                @love thank you. It's also stupid as fuck without accessibility in mind, as it spins ambiguity around exactly the words where it might be the least favorable. Stupid ad-induced censorship 🤮

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                • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                  the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                  neopolitan@outerheaven.clubN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24
                  @love it bothers me to see accessibility get treated as an afterthought even though im not in need.
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                  • charlotte@akko.chir.rsC charlotte@akko.chir.rs

                    @love they are also starting to rephrase what is being said, so not only are entire words missing they don’t even match what the youtuber is saying

                    neopolitan@outerheaven.clubN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #25
                    @charlotte @love
                    I would understand if it's super technical words that it chokes on. but it's everything.
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                    • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                      the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                      supuhstar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @love THIS!!
                      My partner and I have auditory processing disorders and need subtitles. The fucking [__] bullshit just means I can’t understand what they’re saying!!

                      Nevermind when it’s wrong and that wasn’t profanity at all!

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                      • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                        the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                        maeve_bkk@kolektiva.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #27

                        @love also they put subtitles behind subscribe buttons and ads.

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                        • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                          the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                          incessant@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #28

                          @love yes!

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                          • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                            the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                            hayley@social.applied-langua.geH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            hayley@social.applied-langua.ge
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                            #29
                            @love @winter the captions used to transcribe swearing verbatim, I saw this change and apparently it was in 2020 for advertiser-friendliness
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                            • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                              the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                              mitsunee@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mitsunee@mk.absturztau.be
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                              #30

                              @love@social.lol youtube has incredible tools for finding whether a video has copyrighted content, but they can't even use OCR to create a list of words for the subtitle generation to use as reference, so it constantly gets stuff wrong as well ​​

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                              • silverface@cyberpunk.lolS silverface@cyberpunk.lol

                                @love This can be turned off (caveat: only by the uploader) in Youtube Studio.

                                Go to: Youtube Studio, Settings, Under "Content" turn "Censor auto-captions" off.

                                This should be up to the viewer, to be clear, and not the uploader (who may not even be aware that this option exists, because Youtube is great at hiding/removing features that actually benefit people...)

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                                #31

                                @silverface@cyberpunk.lol @love@social.lol It's actually under Channel -> Advanced Setting. I turned it off now. I swear a lot in my videos.

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                                • hayley@social.applied-langua.geH hayley@social.applied-langua.ge
                                  @love @winter the captions used to transcribe swearing verbatim, I saw this change and apparently it was in 2020 for advertiser-friendliness
                                  rairii@labyrinth.zoneR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #32
                                  @hayley @love @winter i wonder what would have happened if youtube had just said no, quoting the bbc subtitle guidelines as a trusted third-party source https://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/forproducts/guides/subtitles/
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                                  • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                                    the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                                    maidservantofnanaya@social.translunar.academyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    maidservantofnanaya@social.translunar.academy
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                                    #33
                                    @love I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OMG!! And like, the one-word-at-a-time popping up is pretty difficult to read. I'm not deaf but I like subtitles to be able to understand people easier.

                                    I miss when YouTube had community captions
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                                    • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                                      the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                                      condret@fedi.absturztau.beC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #34
                                      @love i want to have this conversation, but broader about algo speak and cursing/slur censorship in general. auto translation censoring this is just the peak of the shitberg.
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                                      • maidservantofnanaya@social.translunar.academyM maidservantofnanaya@social.translunar.academy
                                        @love I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OMG!! And like, the one-word-at-a-time popping up is pretty difficult to read. I'm not deaf but I like subtitles to be able to understand people easier.

                                        I miss when YouTube had community captions
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                                        #35

                                        @maidservantofnanaya@translunar.academy @love@social.lol it’s really annoying they got rid of that

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                                        • love@social.lolL love@social.lol

                                          the automatic subtitles on YouTube are not properly accessible. swear words being blanked out is not neutral accessibility for Deaf people like me. if the person in the video is swearing, we need to have that information conveyed to us, not [_____]. we are Deaf, not children. but no one wants to talk about this.

                                          dalereardon@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #36

                                          @sortius @love Completely unacceptable & all disabled should join to stop this - the blind are also being withheld/hidden from alt text/automatic image recognition when the image is perceived as too sensitive - too much skin you know!

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