I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
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@kentuckyalumni There is no "official" tutorial but there are a bunch online. Few are actually useful, sadly.
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@David @reiver Tutorials…is there someplace where all these are currently housed? Because I haven’t a clue where that is and I’ve been using Mastodon for about 2 years. But yes, it would be fabulous if there were videos someplace that walked us thru the early experiences of starting.
Also, yes, a lot less tech speak. Use $2 words instead of $10 words. I’m in my 70s and I did sort of figure it out, still learning, but it could have been easier.
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@stefan Is he? Under the guise of objectivity, he often gives very skewed advice to push his view of the fediverse, which I don't find very honest (see how views of Threads being part of the Fediverse or the bridge to and from Bluesky)
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@stefan Is he? Under the guise of objectivity, he often gives very skewed advice to push his view of the fediverse, which I don't find very honest (see how views of Threads being part of the Fediverse or the bridge to and from Bluesky)
@David Ah, I will admit I don't follow the project closely enough, I just see it come up a lot, and it seems to cover a wide breadth of topic in a beginner-friendly way.
Although, I will say, the bridge does have some utility, given that it also works with Blacksky and other non-Bluesky communities, as they progress towards independence from Bluesky.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
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What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
@reiver host a small instance for your community - whether that means your city, friends, family, interest group, whatever.
Prioritize community interests and act as a reliable onramp to the rest of the Fediverse.
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@kentuckyalumni You're very welcome!
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
@reiver Frankly: Shared, default active blocklists of people trying to tell new people how to "correctly behave". This includes but is not limited to "it's called Fediverse", "no alt text, no boost", "why are you even on mastodon.social" and all other "helpful" kind of people.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
Here goes my lead balloon: a reputation based ranking system. Negative interactions, harassment, being blocked all reduce ranking while positive interactions boot score. Then people can set a threshold on who they want to interact with based on score. Maybe 0 to 100 with everyone starting at 75.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
@reiver less HOA mentality amongst OG users; better messaging to counter the “it’s too confusing" narrative
in general what i see as the barrier is the “algorithm indoctrinated" not being willing to make the effort to build their experience
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Here goes my lead balloon: a reputation based ranking system. Negative interactions, harassment, being blocked all reduce ranking while positive interactions boot score. Then people can set a threshold on who they want to interact with based on score. Maybe 0 to 100 with everyone starting at 75.
how do you stop somebody from creating bots to fuck with that?
the fedi kinda relies on having a small network of trust and not having to care about the trustworthiness of those outside of that. jerks can be on the network and it doesn't affect me as long as I don't follow them or anybody that boosts their jerky posts and there's a system to keep them from being able to harass me.
we lock down the network unnecessarily when we extend trust too far. a block might be personal etc.
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how do you stop somebody from creating bots to fuck with that?
the fedi kinda relies on having a small network of trust and not having to care about the trustworthiness of those outside of that. jerks can be on the network and it doesn't affect me as long as I don't follow them or anybody that boosts their jerky posts and there's a system to keep them from being able to harass me.
we lock down the network unnecessarily when we extend trust too far. a block might be personal etc.
Yes, but they asked what could be done to make it more welcoming to people from other social networks. They don't come here because they want to manually curate a small network. They want a large open network filled with less vitriol. Some way of scoring reputation would help newcomers filter out the haters. That is all.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
@reiver the instance selection is really strange when you think you are just getting on an another social media (most people don't care about open source so it needs to be better than the alternative not just the alternative)
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@reiver the instance selection is really strange when you think you are just getting on an another social media (most people don't care about open source so it needs to be better than the alternative not just the alternative)
@reiver also straight up better algorithm i have trouble staying on mastodon because the post recommandation are not good
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@reiver the instance selection is really strange when you think you are just getting on an another social media (most people don't care about open source so it needs to be better than the alternative not just the alternative)
imo it's an insurmountable problem if you care about being decentralized. if you try to hide or sidestep it, you open the door to centralization. I think we're seeing that with bluesky.
I think you have to address it directly. make education and why we're decentralized into part of the messaging.
"we're different and that might make us more difficult, but we've chosen this path because it matters. for you as a person and society at large. our attention determines everything."
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imo it's an insurmountable problem if you care about being decentralized. if you try to hide or sidestep it, you open the door to centralization. I think we're seeing that with bluesky.
I think you have to address it directly. make education and why we're decentralized into part of the messaging.
"we're different and that might make us more difficult, but we've chosen this path because it matters. for you as a person and society at large. our attention determines everything."
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that's what the mastodon org is going to do. I think that's our best possible model, but it might not ultimately be mastodon. I could see most people on locality based servers that give you the mastodon social news feed functionality, but also stuff like you might want from Next Door. I hope Roundabout does this.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
@reiver A wider diversity of project code bases, that are real world functional for needed community use.
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I have been trying to think of ways of making the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming.
To people outside the Fediverse.
To people thinking of joining the Fediverse.
To people who recently joined the Fediverse.
And more.
...
What do YOU think could make the Fediverse more Friendly and Welcoming?
(Reply with your answers.)
#Fediverse #FriendlyFediverse #SpreadFediverse #WelcomingFediverse
Definitely better onboarding. Based on my own experience and when I had my wife sign up, these are the things that comes to mind:
1. Explain why you need to sign up on a server, and why you may benefit from signing up on a server that aligns with your interests. A way to pre-filter servers based on a few checkboxes would be great.
2. Explain how there is no algorithm, and that you only start to see content in your feed after you start following others. Starter packs would be a huge difference here, so that should have a very high priority.
3. Explain how moderation works, how to contact your server admin, how to block other users and how to make this a safe space for yourself.
4. Explain how not agreeing with others does not make them unwanted here, as long as they do not actively try to harass you or otherwise interact with you. Nobody owns this - and that includes you.
5. Oh, and lets create a USB disk image that anyone can run from an old laptop and host their own Mastodon, Lemmy, PeerTube, Friendica and Bonfire instance for their family to use. Easy-peasy.
