Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
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So automatic payment and renewal isn't a thing over there?
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@FediTips @buffyleigh This seems extra weird because I have domains from multiple registrars and they all send several emails warning about upcoming deadlines, *and* there is a 30-day grace period after the expiration. Either this registrar had terrible practices, or the guppe person abandoned it and didn’t admit it.
The actual post about it mentions an "upstream registrar" doing this so I don't know if that has some effect?
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"pe domains are available for registration by anyone 10 days before the actual expiration date"
That seems like a horrible, horrible policy?
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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
️ https://about.fedigroups.social/homeFediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )
@FediTips What was the registrar they've been using?
So that other would know which company to avoid
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The actual post about it mentions an "upstream registrar" doing this so I don't know if that has some effect?
@FediTips Conceivably, but did that higher level vendor kill the whole tld with no notice? Or did they terminate their relationship with the reseller and accidentally nix all their contracts? It’s certainly possible, but a stretch.
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@FediTips Conceivably, but did that higher level vendor kill the whole tld with no notice? Or did they terminate their relationship with the reseller and accidentally nix all their contracts? It’s certainly possible, but a stretch.
This is another possible explanation: https://rivals.space/@citronmecha/115164440299070887
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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
️ https://about.fedigroups.social/homeFediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )
@FediTips Would you mind adding a warning at the top of your tip page about groups ? For example : This page is no longer valid and will be updated in the near future. Thanks. https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
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@FediTips What was the registrar they've been using?
So that other would know which company to avoid
@gytisrepecka @FediTips I'd like to know, too. Not that I think the others will be much better...
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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
️ https://about.fedigroups.social/homeFediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )
@FediTips How exactly was the domain name "sold by their registrar before they could renew it"?
Seems like an easy appeal to ICANN if it was registrar malfeasance vs. "oops I forgot to renew this critical identifier in time".
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@FediTips How exactly was the domain name "sold by their registrar before they could renew it"?
Seems like an easy appeal to ICANN if it was registrar malfeasance vs. "oops I forgot to renew this critical identifier in time".
@FediTips Mind you, I don't expect a reply or an answer that isn't “Yeah, they just forgot to renew it.”
If it is the latter, that's a big part of the reason the Fediverse is the way it is rn.
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@FediTips We really need some alternative to renting domain names.
EDIT: I like the concept of petnames, but I'm sure there are other valid solutions: https://files.spritely.institute/papers/petnames.html
@skyfaller @FediTips I own a lot of domains. I have no clue how the described thing would happen in practice? On a .de domain, it auto renews and someone else can't simply swoop in like that and "take" it from you?!
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@skyfaller @FediTips I own a lot of domains. I have no clue how the described thing would happen in practice? On a .de domain, it auto renews and someone else can't simply swoop in like that and "take" it from you?!
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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
️ https://about.fedigroups.social/homeFediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )
p.s. For those wondering how this can happen, the .pe domain which gup.pe used has a highly unusual clause which allows anyone to buy the domain 12 days *before* it expires:
"The .CH, .ES, .FR, .LI, .PE, .SG, .COM.SG, .COM.AU, .ORG.AU, .NET.AU TLDs must be renewed 12 days prior to the actual expiration date. If not renewed, the domain will enter the redemption stage right away regardless of the number of days left until expiration."
https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9916/2207/tlds-grace-periods
(Thanks @anonax for info!)
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@skyfaller @FediTips I own a lot of domains. I have no clue how the described thing would happen in practice? On a .de domain, it auto renews and someone else can't simply swoop in like that and "take" it from you?!
It seems that on some country-based domains people can indeed take it from you before it expires:
https://defcon.social/@anonax/115166845086012695
This is just ludicrous, difficult to see why these domains have such stupid rules.
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p.s. For those wondering how this can happen, the .pe domain which gup.pe used has a highly unusual clause which allows anyone to buy the domain 12 days *before* it expires:
"The .CH, .ES, .FR, .LI, .PE, .SG, .COM.SG, .COM.AU, .ORG.AU, .NET.AU TLDs must be renewed 12 days prior to the actual expiration date. If not renewed, the domain will enter the redemption stage right away regardless of the number of days left until expiration."
https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9916/2207/tlds-grace-periods
(Thanks @anonax for info!)
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Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
️ https://about.fedigroups.social/homeFediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: https://github.com/immers-space/guppe/issues/118 )
@FediTips the .pe TLD is really surprising in this regard. it got me too, i used to own pix.pe and pup.pe and lost them in exactly this way
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@FediTips the .pe TLD is really surprising in this regard. it got me too, i used to own pix.pe and pup.pe and lost them in exactly this way
I'm so sorry, that is awful!
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@FediTips Mind you, I don't expect a reply or an answer that isn't “Yeah, they just forgot to renew it.”
If it is the latter, that's a big part of the reason the Fediverse is the way it is rn.
Apparently these are ccTLDs which aren't covered by ICANN:
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@gytisrepecka @FediTips I'd like to know, too. Not that I think the others will be much better...
This is apparently not a registrar problem but a ccTLD problem, anyone using these ccTLDs is at risk of them being bought up to 12 days before expiration:
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@FediTips Would you mind adding a warning at the top of your tip page about groups ? For example : This page is no longer valid and will be updated in the near future. Thanks. https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse/
Yeah, I'm just about to rewrite that!
