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  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

    bluedot@left-bank.netB This user is from outside of this forum
    bluedot@left-bank.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #111

    @CorvidCrone

    How am I supposed to RTFM if they won't give me the F M?

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    • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

      @CorvidCrone

      How am I supposed to RTFM if they won't give me the F M?

      corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #112

      @BlueDot exactly!

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      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

        rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
        rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
        rjayne_n@wandering.shop
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        #113

        @CorvidCrone I, a tech writer, want to WRITE the instructional manual for someone. Really.
        Why should your users have a "help chatbot" jumping and swirling in the bottom corner of your screen while you type?

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        • rjayne_n@wandering.shopR rjayne_n@wandering.shop

          @CorvidCrone I, a tech writer, want to WRITE the instructional manual for someone. Really.
          Why should your users have a "help chatbot" jumping and swirling in the bottom corner of your screen while you type?

          corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
          corvidcrone@kolektiva.social
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          #114

          @Rjayne_n and the chatbot always pops up over whatever you're looking at

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          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

            *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

            All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

            My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

            I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

            gandalfdg@indieweb.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            gandalfdg@indieweb.social
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            #115

            @CorvidCrone This is how I felt trying to get any sort of idea what the hell a "databricks" is

            as far as I can tell it's some sort of marketing website that allegedly can do things with data but without some sort of training I don't think I'll ever really know.

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            • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

              @Rjayne_n and the chatbot always pops up over whatever you're looking at

              rjayne_n@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #116

              @CorvidCrone Yes it does. Sigh.
              Normally saying "hey are you looking for something?"

              ... normally it's the button to turn it off.

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                #117

                @Kay Updates shouldn’t break the existing features. changing existing features should be rare, because it breaks learned behaviours. Having to update the manual might be friction enough to save us from ever changing UIs.

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                • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                  *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                  All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                  My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                  Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                  I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                  stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                  stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                  stairjoke@indieweb.social
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                  #118

                  @CorvidCrone The manual should include pictures, like the toolbar icon to click, and images that make it plain where in the UI a feature is located.

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                  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                    exec@furry.engineerE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #119

                    @CorvidCrone

                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                    Oh, great. I "got" one. My bf is one.

                    But he's currently laid off, but not because of AI but because of outsourcing.

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                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                      *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                      All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                      My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                      Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                      I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social
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                      #120

                      @CorvidCrone As a former technical writer, I approve this message!

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                      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                        davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        davemwilburn@infosec.exchange
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                        #121

                        @CorvidCrone

                        Sorry, best I can do is an excruciating and meandering 29-minute long YouTube video sponsored by Nord VPN.

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                        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                          dkf@cyberplace.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #122

                          @CorvidCrone I got an archive.org record of a blog post that links a badly-compressed youtube video of a talk that has a briefly skipped past slide with a sentence about the API you're interested in.

                          I'm surprised there's no sign "Beware of the Leopard".

                          (There are bits of LLVM's advanced features that feel like they're documented exactly like this. Maybe they improved it. I doubt it, but maybe...)

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                          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                            *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                            All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                            My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                            I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                            pattycat@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #123

                            @CorvidCrone user manuals, service manuals I keep from the parts and equipment along with the start-up reports I collate next to the equipment I service and maintain

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                            • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                              *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                              All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                              My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                              Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                              I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                              ianbadcoe@peoplemaking.gamesI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #124

                              @CorvidCrone And I certainly don't want to have to watch a half hour YouTube video that may or may not turn out to be for the same version...

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                              • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                                gourd@indiepocalypse.social
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                                #125

                                @CorvidCrone unfortunately in the current state of things it's more likely you get a chatbot sent to you with a rice cooker *sigh*

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                                • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                  *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                  All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                  My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                  Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                  I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                  swade2569@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #126

                                  @CorvidCrone No video on YT either, asking me to like share and subscribe, spending 3/4 of the time talking about and around the problem before giving a solution which is hardly a solution at all which they then link to another solution…… fuuuuuu

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                                  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                    wordman@dice.campW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #127

                                    @CorvidCrone I don't think it is programmers you need to convince of this.

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                                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                      *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                      All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                      My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                      Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                      I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                      darkmatterzine@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #128

                                      @CorvidCrone yes, this. I love a good manual. Contents, index and a good search function.
                                      Hubby has been told over the years that one of the reasons he’s such a good programmer is that he notates his code as he goes so it’s easy for others to see what he’s done and, later, to modify it without causing a chain reaction.

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                                      • dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.atD dequbed@mastodon.chaosfield.at

                                        @drwho @CorvidCrone maybe, I never used most of those too much. But old CAD and CAM software was *bad*. Simulation / scientific software even more so. Sure if your previous standard was batch processed hand punched FORTRAN they were all usable but a lot of companies really showed that they were trying out these newfangled GUIs for the first time and spend all their money on the shiny interface and none on fixing bugs.

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                                        #129

                                        @dequbed @drwho @CorvidCrone pleasingly the ANSYS of 2007 came with a manual that told you everything that every function and setting did. Those were the days of the GUI mostly being a tool to write a text file for the computational bit.

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                                        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                          nlarson830@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          nlarson830@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          nlarson830@techhub.social
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                                          #130

                                          @CorvidCrone

                                          <whiny voice>
                                          "Bbut instruction manuals are haaard."
                                          🙄

                                          Extra steps that are important:
                                          1) Have that technical writer's work vetted by the people that wrote the software.
                                          2) Bare minimum make the manual available as a PDF, ideally a printed on paper manual TOO!

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