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  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

    gottox@chaos.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #15

    @CorvidCrone just give me a few comments in the header file, that's all I want!

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    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

      *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

      All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

      My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

      Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

      I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

      markix@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
      markix@blahaj.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @CorvidCrone@kolektiva.social Ardour has a 119 chapter manual and it's so peak ​​

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      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

        juliarez@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        juliarez@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
        juliarez@chaos.social
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        #17

        @CorvidCrone

        Testify!

        The two best tech manuals I can think of were the service docs for the BBC micro and the Philips KT3 television chassis.

        Modulo the early O'Reilly books, Droms & Lemon, and perhaps the Continuous Delivery book, everything else has been a bit awful.

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        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

          jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          @CorvidCrone Do you need a Linux distro? https://mxlinux.org/manuals/

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          • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

            *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

            All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

            My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

            Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

            I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

            fbarton@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
            fbarton@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19

            @CorvidCrone Can I add one more qualifier please?

            I want it to be accurate!

            I can't start to count the number of "fully documented" APIs that I've dealt with where I end up sending in corrections because the documentation is missing critical information

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            • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

              @CorvidCrone

              Testify!

              The two best tech manuals I can think of were the service docs for the BBC micro and the Philips KT3 television chassis.

              Modulo the early O'Reilly books, Droms & Lemon, and perhaps the Continuous Delivery book, everything else has been a bit awful.

              jeffbronks@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @JuliaRez @CorvidCrone
              BBC Micro docs in general were superb. Partly what inspired me to become a Tech Author.

              ##bbcmicro #techwriting

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              • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                jeffbronks@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @CorvidCrone
                And not a video.

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                • apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA apples_and_pears@mastodon.world

                  @CorvidCrone That's something I loved about DEC their manuals were actually helpful! Further they wrote in depth about each piece of hardware from the customer's POV and published it, freely giving copies to customers, and potential customers.

                  People learned what DEC hardware/software could do. Today people ask an AI to do "something.

                  If you want to be useful you have to know what is happening and how it's being done.

                  chloeraccoon@mastodonapp.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @apples_and_pears @CorvidCrone dec manuals did come with the risk of the wall of documentation falling on you 😉 @majenko @baljemmett

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                  • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                    *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                    All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                    My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                    Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                    I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                    furball@tiggi.esF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #23

                    @CorvidCrone @ahto If you need help just join the discord. Idk what the prob is.

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                    • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                      *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                      All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                      My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                      Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                      I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                      fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
                      fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @CorvidCrone
                      Once upon a time I worked for a European electronics company. My bit was a specific area of medical software. They employed a team of technical writers for the user manuals. I didn't appreciate at first just how good the manuals were until I was training a physician with whom I had no common language. In the manual, Chapter 8, section 33.5.8 was exactly the same point in the workflow, explaining the objective of what I wanted to demonstrate.
                      And the index was an absolute joy to use.

                      They've probably moved on to using an LLM to write them now 😬

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                      • jeffbronks@c.imJ jeffbronks@c.im

                        @JuliaRez @CorvidCrone
                        BBC Micro docs in general were superb. Partly what inspired me to become a Tech Author.

                        ##bbcmicro #techwriting

                        juliarez@chaos.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #25

                        @jeffbronks

                        @CorvidCrone

                        Right? It's been a bit of a while, but you could read the (quite thin) service book, and feel like you could design a reasonable 6502 system on the back of an envelope _and_ be confident that you could fix all the common faults you'd come across.

                        Books like that should be inspiring rather than distressing. 'I've suffered, and I'm writing this so you don't have to' over 'I've suffered, and now you must, too'.

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                        • furball@tiggi.esF furball@tiggi.es

                          @CorvidCrone @ahto If you need help just join the discord. Idk what the prob is.

                          bloognoo@retro.pizzaB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #26

                          @Furball @CorvidCrone @ahto
                          I hope that's ironic.

                          Discord is an unindexed hole where information gleaned by the communities the company offloaded support responsibilities on to goes to die. I am less likely to use a product or service if yhe only way you find out about it is the discord.
                          Haxe, a programming language i love is abouttyo release version 5. I can't find any information about the release because all announcements, changelogs and info are inside their discord. Might as well put it on facebook.

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                          • chloeraccoon@mastodonapp.ukC chloeraccoon@mastodonapp.uk

                            @apples_and_pears @CorvidCrone dec manuals did come with the risk of the wall of documentation falling on you 😉 @majenko @baljemmett

                            majenko@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #27

                            @chloeraccoon @apples_and_pears @CorvidCrone @baljemmett You need DEC document EK-W4LLS-UG - How to extract human from document collapse

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                            • majenko@mastodon.socialM majenko@mastodon.social

                              @chloeraccoon @apples_and_pears @CorvidCrone @baljemmett You need DEC document EK-W4LLS-UG - How to extract human from document collapse

                              chloeraccoon@mastodonapp.ukC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #28

                              @majenko @apples_and_pears @CorvidCrone @baljemmett Don't forget the 600 page binder... "How to locate and deal with bugs" 😉

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                              • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                binder@masto.hackers.townB This user is from outside of this forum
                                binder@masto.hackers.townB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #29

                                @CorvidCrone that would mean the software would have to be correct, and they couldnt' constantly change everything.

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                                • juliarez@chaos.socialJ juliarez@chaos.social

                                  @jeffbronks

                                  @CorvidCrone

                                  Right? It's been a bit of a while, but you could read the (quite thin) service book, and feel like you could design a reasonable 6502 system on the back of an envelope _and_ be confident that you could fix all the common faults you'd come across.

                                  Books like that should be inspiring rather than distressing. 'I've suffered, and I'm writing this so you don't have to' over 'I've suffered, and now you must, too'.

                                  jeffbronks@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #30

                                  @JuliaRez @CorvidCrone
                                  Yeah. The long version of my reply is "... to become a hardware engineer and then a tech author". The Beeb was the perfect blend of both.

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                                    #31

                                    @Kay @CorvidCrone If bug fixes break functionality in a way that makes a rewrite of the instructional manual necessary, that's not ideal. Actually for updates that's hardly ideal either.
                                    Also if you introduce new features along the way, why wouldn't you write instructions on how to actually use those?

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                                    • chrisgerhard@mastodon.greenC chrisgerhard@mastodon.green

                                      @CorvidCrone not a bloody video. Honestly the UNIX man pages had the correct paradigm.

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                                      #32

                                      @chrisgerhard @CorvidCrone A video can be a useful addition for some people to better understand something, but this should be always in this order: 1. Good manual, 2. Good tutorials, 3. something and anything else. (Those should also be up to date with possible older versions available too, if feasible, in my honest opinion.)

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                                      • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                        *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                        All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                        My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                        Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                        I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                        wamdamdam@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #33

                                        @CorvidCrone Here you go. https://github.com/wamdam/raspimidihub/releases/latest/download/raspimidihub-manual.pdf

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                                        • corvidcrone@kolektiva.socialC corvidcrone@kolektiva.social

                                          *gently grabs the cheeks of all programmers to stare deeply into their eyes*

                                          All I want is a dry tech manual. A boring, well indexed manual that defines every function. Not a chatbot. Not a training. Not a million "articles" that I have to search through. Not a "community forum".

                                          My rice cooker came with one. I want one for every piece of software I have to interact with.

                                          Go get yourself a technical writer if necessary.

                                          I. Want. An. Instructional. Manual.

                                          acesabe@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #34

                                          @CorvidCrone
                                          No manual, no #RTFM!

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