@inthehands That scares me. I feel the people of Minneapolis have shown remarkable restraint, courage, and resiliency, and that we're in an extremely dangerous place historically. I don't have any easy simple safe answers; the only good strategy I can think of is to break ICE's morale so their troops desert and the operation falls apart or they declare victory and go home. Morale can be broken among the troops or among the leadership. Mess with Noem's or Bovino's head enough and you might get this to fall apart with less bloodshed. Or more - who knows? We're in uncharted territory and we have to win this. Weather and numbers are on your side; keeping community morale up to keep harassing ICE will be key. You can outlast them but every day is more damage to the community.

The current strategy seems to be working - the document grab from the abandoned rental cars was some combination of genius and luck. Hopefully that helps find pain points that can be leveraged. I wish I could do more, DM me if you have some concrete suggestions.

@standev That's right. The whole situation is reversed. If the fanatics are going terrorize the citizens and treat opposition as an insurgency, what does the citizenry do? Make life miserable for the invaders, goad them into making the historical mistakes of counterinsurgency, and avoid making the mistakes that would lose them national support.

Maybe the second half of Nagl's book is mote applicable - how US counterinsurgency failed in Vietnam. This situation seems like what happened in Vietnam except the Viet Cong and NVA aren't there.

This whole violent fiasco is unbelievably stupid but we're in the middle of it and it is absolutely vital that Minnesota prevail otherwise this will be repeated and eventually devolve into civil war.

@inthehands I'm going suggest reading the first half of "Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife" by Col. John Nagl. https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Eat-Soup-Knife-Counterinsurgency/dp/0226567702 You're essentially fighting an insurgency of well-equipped fanatics who lack local support, logistics, and discipline. Nagl is smart, he revised the Army's counterinsurgency manual, and he compares how the British in Malaysia effectively defeated communist insurgents while still keeping the public on their side.

The book is not so much on military operation but on winning hearts and minds, showing how one army did and another army didn't in very similar conflicts.

That's essentially your challenge - direct armed confrontation will not work, surrender will not work, but the current tactics seem to slowly be working. Tracking them, getting in their way, goading them til they lose discipline, not letting them have a good night's rest, pressuring companies not to do business with them - all that corrodes their morale. The danger is someone else will snap and shoot another poet in the face again. But they've already proven they'll do that casually so there's really no additional risk.

They're an occupying force. Make them feel that every day until they leave. Make every Minnesota winter day that much colder and more miserable for them. Be like the northern Midwest winter and make them hate life.