@papush_ @marcohackney I don't want to start on past achievements like increase in wealth and an unusual long period of relative peace but rather want to look ahead. Without a common European voice all European nations won't have any stand against China, Russia and the US. One can debate what "European values" are actually worth... but it certainly a step up compared to these dog-eat-dog powers.

@papush_ @marcohackney The EU, to some extent, is only the sum of its pieces so it obviously follows the general backlash. That sucks, but is no EU issue.

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Czech was the latest country, where the supreme court deciced that their data retention violates EU law.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Czech-Republic-Supreme-Court-overturns-indiscriminate-data-retention-11143029.html

2022 the German data retention was zapped by Court of Justice of the EU.

https://eucrim.eu/news/cjeu-german-rules-on-data-retention-not-in-line-with-eu-law/

I don't have time for sources in other countries, but I'm aware of various other countries like Austria, Romania, Ireland, France and Sweden where policies were either abandoned or drastically cut.

@papush_ @marcohackney I'm simply stating that a judgement, that only emphasises problems in a sector and ignores positive impact is oversimplified

You criticised EU plans to ease mass surveillance, I reminded that EU courts also stopped mass surveillance.

@papush_ @marcohackney That would be a valid point if the nation states would not try to impose mass surveillance and be influenced by lobbyist.

On the contrary, EU law & courts have often crushed local practises, just look at data retention without cause in various EU states.