@eclectech While you are expecting responders to be fluent in Finnish, you ignore the fact that our grasp of proper FFS usage in English might not be that good, affecting the proposed translations. Maybe add a couple of example sentence in English for us to better understand the nuances you are looking for.

@eclectech Depends a bit on the context. In a monologue, "(voi) vittu soikoon" is used the same way as English "for fuck's sake". But if you are disagreering with what was just said, one would start with "(ja) vittujen kevät"