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  • The LLM part is bad news but it isn't the sign.
    corbet@social.kernel.orgC corbet@social.kernel.org
    @sackofbones @Netzblockierer @torvalds @mhoye Perhaps consider trusting a project (and its leader) that have delivered increasingly capable kernels and a strong development community for 35 years?

    I am not thrilled (to put it lightly) about this rush to LLMs, but I don't think that this sort of attitude makes things better.
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  • The LLM part is bad news but it isn't the sign.
    corbet@social.kernel.orgC corbet@social.kernel.org
    @srtcd424 @mhoye @gvwilson As somebody who spends an inordinate amount of time watching this community, I don't know who the "definitely more than one" would be. Since you seemingly do, can you provide me with names, privately if you prefer?
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  • The LLM part is bad news but it isn't the sign.
    corbet@social.kernel.orgC corbet@social.kernel.org
    @srtcd424 @mhoye @gvwilson There is *one* Rust developer who left after some frustrating experiences. We were sad to lose him. Meanwhile Rust is going from strength to strength in the kernel.

    If you look at my Kernel Recipes talk last month, you'll see that, among many other things, I said that the LLM onslaught was likely to cost us developers who don't want to deal with it. To a lesser extent, the advent of Rust may have the same effect. It is not desirable, but I'm not sure what you do about it.

    Those who know me know that I am not a big LLM fan. I don't like what they are doing to our community, I fear for the long-term maintainability of a kernel filled with code that its authors don't understand, I detest the time I have had to put into defending LWN against scraper DDoS attacks, I am terrified by the prospect of making our free-software project dependent on proprietary tools owned and developed by psycopaths, I don't believe we can afford the environmental costs, and so on. But the community has to respond to all of this somehow; we're all still trying to figure out what that is.
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  • The LLM part is bad news but it isn't the sign.
    corbet@social.kernel.orgC corbet@social.kernel.org
    @mhoye @gvwilson The kernel community is more than mildly interested in alternatives. When you have literally thousands of people showing up throwing slop at you, what do you do to retain your sanity and the quality of your code base? Nobody wants to turn away developers who want to actually learn the kernel and be part of the community, but identifying those people takes time and resources that simply aren't there.
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