@david_chisnall are there any investors who actually say this ?well, of course there are, there are millions of investorsOK, looking at the stock price, we see that roughly the last two years, META stock price is low, and the dividend yield is low, so if you bought META after about 2024 your investment is crap, but if you bought roughly before 2024 you did ok, and if you bought earlier you did really wellif you bought before 2014, your investment is a "ten bagger"