@drwho @mttaggart Mail, storage, and VPN (and DNS) aren't small projects you can just run on a whim, not for other people. There are tons of cheap VPS services out there. There are even some who *aren't* running a vuln-ridden copy of cPanel from 2018. That's not really what we're talking about here, I don't think

@drwho @mttaggart We don't live there anymore, and I haven't run email or DNS (or hell even web services) without some form of HA since 2007

@wolf480pl @mttaggart Sometimes, but retrying an hour later doesn't help the user get their login code

Modern email is, probably unfortunately, too deeply enmeshed in modern access flows to really permit the kind of eventual reliability it was originally built around

@mttaggart I think email especially, without that level of resiliency, is basically malpractice

@mttaggart I would love to see more of that, but there's a minimum size in practical terms, I think -- you have to be able to offer the equivalent of multiple AWS AZs, multiple long-term-stable exclusive IPv4 addresses, a properly HA DNS stack, etc