@Epic_Null @crankylinuxuser @tante “local” models are as reliant on illegal data acquisition, because they depend on the larger mainstream models to reach any level of tolerable performance. Whether it’s for training, fine tuning, distillation, or another method, that dependency means anything that goes into the development of the nonlocal model is also a requirement for the development of the local versions.

Deepseek and Qwen are no exception.