@logomancer that would be nice if it turned into something. I remember when Firefox was an upstart pet project.

It gained momentum and features that people actually wanted. After a while, it was hard to ignore.

That's what we need right now.

A large swath of people keep asking for tools without AI. It sounds like Libre Office is experiencing a surge in usage because of this. It would be great for a browser project to step into this gaping void.

@jwz out of curiosity, what is a good, trustworthy, no nonsense upstart web browser these days?

@jwz It feels like someone needs to pull a Firefox on the Mozilla Foundation like Firefox did on the original Mozilla browser when it had lost its way.

Take the core technology of Firefox & fork a non-AI browser that is focused on the web. That's what a large swath of people want. Then let the downloads do the talking.

Firefox "won" because a lot of people were using it. Web developers loved it.

Make a browser that people fall in love with because it works and is fast & reliable without AI.