@firefoxwebdevs You are reading the words we write without making any visible attempt to understand why we are writing them. You and I and pretty much everyone else in this thread are flesh and blood human beings, not LLMs. We fleshy things say words because we have opinions, beliefs, feelings, and goals. Language models lack all of those things, having only matrices of weights that encode statistical estimates of likely sentences and paragraphs. Perhaps you've spent too much time interacting with LLMs and you've forgotten that people are more than statistical word producers? Because you speak to us, and of us, like we're defective models that aren't accepting your commands.

@sotolf @davidgerard The World's Worst LISP

@barubary @firefoxwebdevs @fasterandworse @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt I can only assume that Mozilla is angling to be bought by AOL Time Warner like Netscape was.

@barubary @firefoxwebdevs @fasterandworse @nuintari @davidgerard @zzt Nevermind that the origin of Firefox *itself*, back when it was an experimental rogue project named Phoenix, was to jettison the accumulated weight of Mozilla Suite and move all the bells and whistles to optional add-ons. Back when the browser also included an e-mail, Usenet, calendar, and chat app that couldn't be turned off. Mozilla is actively unlearning the original lesson of Firefox's wild success.

@jbc @david_chisnall @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard @yoasif @fmasy @Rycochet @zzt Heck, have a little non-modal wizard that pops up now and then and asks "Hey, it looks like you're trying to browse the web without AI! Would you like to turn that on for you?" with a little animated paperclip. That would *still* be more respectful of users' no-AI preferences than whatever the hell Mozilla has been doing.

@nuintari @firefoxwebdevs @angelfeast @zzt @yoasif @fmasy @Rycochet @davidgerard THIS. Anyone who's ever written a poll or survey that's not *deliberately* a push poll knows that polls influence the beliefs of the people being polled, by choosing which options are presented vs hidden and by the exact wording of the question and options. It simply cannot be avoided, only minimized.