@margadil @randahl

I agree. That's what should happen. Brazil have gone down this road and developed much more independent digital services. I'm not sure what analogue services remain.

The problem is Europeans haven't got alternatives. It is easier to find Indian IT alternative services than European ones.

The US could literally switch your phone off, stop mapping services, shutdown email systems, cloud storage, switch off business finance software, sales platforms, even specialist software such as video editing, defense systems or social media etc etc.

@randahl

If Trump is seriously threatened by EU sanctions, especially those sanction effect the tech sector, he has the option of switching Europe off.

He can switch off at will any European or EU government or agency selectively. He can shut down any company or group of companies.

Literally, those organisations would switch on their computers and nothing would work. Or he could just shut down access to data. Or flight bookings. Or whatever he and the technokings decide.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html