@GeofCox @randahl I feel it's not sexual or based on desire, except desire for power, and conservative belief in natural hierarchy.

Dark triad bullies all the way up.

One does not actually have sense of power if one does not *demonstrate* it in personal sphere.

There is no hierarchy of any value if you can't abuse "lower value" vulnerable people at will. Your wife, your kids, someone else's kids. Or bomb them.

They would abuse the shit out of their slaves if they still had some..