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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage siden -
Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenSNCF: bags without a label are a big danger! Announce! Fine! Act!
Also SNCF: passenger blocking doors (an escape route) with 4 bags.
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenAnd just one more station of #CrossBorderRail to go... Montbard now, 10 mins to Nuits-sous-Ravières and then 2km bike home
And then this monster will no doubt be sat on my knee within 2 minutes of my arrival!
Thanks for following all of this crazy project this past three weeks. I need a bit of a rest, but there will be a lot more soon!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenSpent the past couple of hours working on the data, as so many of my #CrossBorderRail plans changed in the past couple of days
The map I travelled is now more or less right: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crosschannelrail-2025_1148540#6/48.973/2.845
But all the train assessments will follow sometime, tomorrow if I have the energy!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenNow on the final train home, Dijon to Nuits-sous-Ravières
It’s packed
But there *are seats* - but passengers put bags on them
I don’t know what’s more stupid: doing that to deny passengers a seat, or passengers refusing to ask passengers move bags?
I asked, got a grumpy
️ but the passenger complied and I have a seat
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenFrance tangent: Bourgogne Franche Comté reduction cards have not been working on SNCF for a week or so, despite SNCF issuing them AFAIK
Now all holders have received an email telling them to…
… use another SNCF website to book instead
Well done everyone!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenThankfully the overhead racks are generous. Not quite as good as Talgo, but still very good.
The noise level on board is fine. The air quality good. Toilets and vestibules well designed. Gangways between carriages wide.
Put some luggage racks in, and replace linoleum floors with carpet and you’d have an excellent train.
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenThere are some design choices made by Trenitalia for the interior that make little sense
Worst: luggage space. Most carriages have no rack for large bags at all! What were they thinking?
They don’t sell 2 seats per carriage as a temporary solution for this
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenIt’s smooth at 300km/h, not quite as good as a TGV though
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenHowever Frecciarossa seats are designed for short people. I’m 1m 83 tall, and the seat comes only to the base of my skull. Seat is comfortable until there though!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenSo you can board a full Frecciarossa in 11 minutes, from a terminus gate at Gare de Lyon, with staff checking tickets instead of using ticket barriers
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenTrenitalia meanwhile needs 8 staff to board one 8 carriage Frecciarossa
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenAnd when SNCF goes whining to the Italian competition authority it can’t get the paths it wants in Italy, pause a moment: Italian high speed lines and stations are quite full, all day
By contrast SNCF Réseau can‘t refuse Trenitalia an off peak path in France when nothing else is going
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenAnd 2 of the 4 trains this hour at Paris Gare de Lyon are regional ones
So just 2 high speed departures
Compare that to Milano Centrale with 8 departures, or Frankfurt (Main) Hbf with a dozen
(Oh and DB doesn’t show Italo. So the Milano total will be higher still)
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenArriving at Paris Gare de Lyon - the station for high speed trains to France‘s second and third cities Marseille and Lyon… and there are 4 trains in the next hour.
FOUR
That’s it.
The chronically under utilised capacity on French rail, off peak, makes me annoyed.
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenSo my little tour of the eastern edges of Paris is done
RER back into the city now!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenAnd here’s SNCF inviting harassment of passengers by telling them to display sensitive information
No, legally you DO NOT need to put a mobile number on your luggage!
How dare SNCF exceed what’s legally necessary in this publicity?
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenYou can see how Marne La Vallée Chessy worked for #CrossChannelRail
Pic 1: the terminal
Pic 2: escalators secured with kind of fences, as in Lille
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenIf I’ve counted it right they have 17 staff to check inOui and OUIGO tickets before passengers get to the platforms here at Marne La Vallée Chessy. Strikes me as… rather a lot!
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossChannelRail Day 19 - 4 April - Paris - Charles de Gaulle - Marne la Vallée-Chessy - Lyon - Ravièresfor 25 dage sidenHigh speed train
Slow speed boarding