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  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie
    A different aprox:

    https://www.collaboraonline.com/blog/you-are-not-sovereign-if-microsoft-still-architects-your-documents/

    @zandbelt @libreoffice

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie
    The best aprox is "create new as ODF, save in the last time saved".

    @zandbelt @libreoffice

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice But it is no there.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice

    What LibreOffice should be doing is subtly different. Instead of using "save as OOXML by default," it should ensure that the "Open" dialog box displays any ODF or OOXML document for selection without any hassle. THAT would be a real improvement. And apparently, it's doing that now.

    And perhaps offering to save the native format just once, instead of every time 😀 And more importantly: manage them as best as possible. And improve PDF support.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice but in fact OXML is bad and incompatible and a lot of things.

    Marketing from LibreOffice is bad, and some policies or decisions are bad too. I'm agreed in this.

    But OOXML is only a standard because Microsoft paid people time ago to approve the ISO standard. Nothing more.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice

    No, it is true. ODF is not a good standard anyway.

    But include things you can't replicate. Then it is closed. Paying people can't change the nature of the code.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice
    You mention LibreOffice's marketing, but you're referring to an understandable decision: sticking with their own format. Are you confusing proper support for a format with "saving by default"?

    None of this explains why OnlyOffice doesn't have better usage figures. You're making assumptions without any basis.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @ocdtrekkie @zandbelt @libreoffice

    OOXML specifications include things as "spaceline as in Word 97". Since spaceline in Word 97 is closed, OOXML is closed.

    Microsoft can spend millions paying lot of people to convince someone that OOXML is open, but, precisely, specifications are there to anyone who want to check.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @cairobraga @libreoffice However meticulous you want to be, according to the section you linked, the suite included independent components that were not free software, but the suite itself was 😉

    You can say instead: "OpenOffice was the firs FOSS widely distributed suite".

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @nanianmichaels in the other hand, I wouldn't say that OnlyOffice is dominating the market.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @nanianmichaels Maybe you should read the legal terms of any software out there, even the Microsoft software 😂

    Most of official entities are using PDF anyway (which adds its own set of problems) but when you have a policy of technological sovereignty things have to be part of it. How can we consider such a goal if the developers have already given up at the first hurdle?

    About 2), those users will never trade their wonderful MS Office/365 for anything else.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @nanianmichaels @f4grx
    Users wouldn't even need to notice the format change, just as they didn't in the past (for example, during the transition from the previous format to OOXML). Users simply need their existing documents to continue working.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @zandbelt @libreoffice
    You can see the difference between using a native format and being able to use other formats, versus using a closed format as if it were native.

    ODF first, use any format, vs. OOXML first.mat.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf

  • An open letter to office suite users, just before the Euro-Office announcement
    karlggestd@mastodon.socialK karlggestd@mastodon.social

    @libreoffice

    The first FOSS suite was the own StarOffice, not OpenOffice.

    And well, your png in that toot is horrible.

    Ikke-kategoriseret digitalsovereig libreoffice odf
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