@ludicity I have fortunately increased my distance from Silicon Valley startups nowadays, otherwise I might have a more pertinent answer RE "after LLMs", but in web dev, the truth is there have already been numerous inflection points in the before times. Examples:

- Mid-late 2000s: Back-end engineers write tons of awful front-end code because organizations refuse to hire specialists as they fail to appreciate how distinct and deep of a discipline semantic HTML, accessibility, CSS, and client-side scripting have become.
- Mid-late 2010s: The advent of various JS frameworks (e.g. React, Next, Tailwind) lead to more and more _front-end_ engineers who _also_ don't understand any of the things I listed above, when that should literally be their damn job.

(Edit: dates indicate when these problems started. They haven't stopped.)

Of course, because LLMs "learn from" all of the mountains of bad code already output via these prior layers of dysfunction, that will only multiply the pain further...

Perhaps more related to the "after LLMs" bucket, though, is just how many OSS projects my work has depended on that have accepted vibe-coded PRs, which I find deeply unsettling, especially given the context of findings like this: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/116080909947754833