@chris_evelyn @mjg59 I haven't taken a proper look at it either, so I don't know if it is open-washing as has been the case with a lot of other models, but if this means anything RMS has stated that it appears to "be free".

@mjg59 That being said, I do think that the "Free Software" concern is legitimate, especially when people are replicating existing GPL programs to circumvent copyleft and undermining a sense of community. After all, copyleft means that you are publishing the source of a program, thereby respecting the user, under the condition that they return the same respect and treat everyone else under the same terms.

@mjg59 IIRC a big confusion was that early on Copilot would generate verbatim copies of existing, GPL'ed code, including comments. I do neither understand why that was the case or if that has changed, but my understanding of other LLMs is that they don't work in a way that they are just literally reproducing existing input.

I think you are right in pointing out that writing code is not really a artistic/creative job, no matter what we have been saying to ourselves.

@chris_evelyn @mjg59 Isn't https://ethz.ch/en/news-and-events/eth-news/news/2025/09/press-release-apertus-a-fully-open-transparent-multilingual-language-model.html supposed to be something like that?