@anne_twain @halfy In all honesty I hope to be out of that place before that happens

@reiddragon Eventually the house of cards will collapse because the technical debt being created is enormous

So yeah, I assume investors absolutely love it for now, but when the tide turns who picks up the rubble?

@f4grx It's exactly this!!

People who used to do their craft just fine but have now almost kinda turned into zombies?

@gkrnours Good luck !

@gkrnours I'm trying to find a new job but I'm so worried a lot of IT engineering jobs are like this now

@kirakira Not sure if jealous... Maybe a little bit if we ignore the financials of it

@clumsy

Actually really valid observation, the industry has been sick for a while in general

@river

The frustrating part is, in order to be able to convince someone they need to have a deep understanding of what output the AI is producing.

To the lazy or unsuspecting eye its output looks superb and perfect. But only if you have a reasonably deep understanding of the engineering challenge you've asked it to solve, you will understand it's more often garbage than not.

I don't see a way to win this battle, other than finding a company that doesn't fall for AI and keeps producing high quality services, even though they may take a little longer to build than competitors. Eventually others will start to collapse under the technical debt

@pounce We will definitely experience the consequences of this in 5-10 years from now

@kitcat

To be honest the making process sometimes frustrates me, but I don't see how you could be proud of what you have made if it's just hastily thrown together by a chatbot!

I'm proud of the things I've made, because I've put my own brain to use to create something I had in mind. I thought it worked this way for others too, but like you say I think we might be in the minority here

@swift I sometimes end up talking to them about it, and they seem to be aware AI is sometimes wrong... But yet they keep using it for literally everything.

It's almost like an addict who knows the addiction might be hurting them, but can't stop using.

I can see the damage it's doing to the long term maintainability of our environment and platform too

@halfy

I think AI is incredibly weak at actually understanding problems with any moderate degree of complexity.

People forget it's a language model that is just very advanced at predicting what would be a likely, or seemingly sensible answer to a prompt. It's kinda inherent to it's design, they try to overcome it by having it write it's own prompt ("thinking mode") but even then it still just doesn't grasp the full idea

Is anyone else experience this thing where your fellow senior engineers seem to be lobotomised by AI?

I've had 4 different senior engineers in the last week come up with absolutely insane changes or code, that they were instructed to do by AI. Things that if you used your brain for a few minutes you should realise just don't work.

They also rarely can explain why they make these changes or what the code actually does.

I feel like I'm absolutely going insane, and it also makes me not able to trust anyones answers or analysis' because I /know/ there is a high chance they should asked AI and wrote it off as their own.

I think the effect AI has had on our industry's knowledge is really significant, and it's honestly very scary.