@prism Yeah. Fuck microsoft. An operating system should be a tool to it's user that manages your hardware, manages your files, and manages your apps with an easy to use and accessible interface and that's all it should do. It should not be a tool to microsoft for advertising, data mining, and making you a slave to microsoft cloud services lest they delete everything without warning

@prism To be clear, I don't expect you to know that, you shouldn't have to know that, it shouldn't be a miracle to have an OS that does the literal one job it's fucking designed to do properly.

@prism It's too late now and i'm sorry for your loss, but this is probably the number 1 reason that people much smarter than me have found semi unofficial ways to bypass the Microsoft account requirement during windows first time setup and why people like myself keep demanding it's put back in the OOBE as an official option.

If you bypass the account requirement then windows puts your files where they are supposed to be and doesn't activate onedrive "integration".

@quixoticgeek The $2500 fancy oven with wifi and whatever else is not going to do a better job at being an oven than my $700 oven. Same with pretty much any other appliance. And the $700 one isn't gonna demand subscriptions and it will probably last much longer. So why would you buy the more expensive one.

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@quixoticgeek Can I tell they are cheaper appliances and are there features I wish I had? Sure. My oven has no convect mode. The dishwasher and clothes washer are noisy. My fridge has no water or ice dispenser (though it does have an icemaker). But they all do the job they are designed to do very well. And I expect them to hold up decently because there's so little to go wrong, and if something does go wrong it will be cheaper to fix.

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@quixoticgeek I've always had "landlord spec" appliances. By that I mean if you look it up, it's the cheapest or close to the cheapest and most basic model that (insert brand, whirlpool in my current case) makes. Yet my fridge keeps my food cold. My oven heats to the temperature I told it to. My washing machine makes my clothes clean. My dishwasher cleans my dishes fantastically well. And none of them demand anything of me.

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@quixoticgeek In my opinion, we've gotten to a point where (generally speaking, there are exceptions like kitchenaid mixers) the consumer appliance industry has gotten to a point where spending more gets you a worse product. Spending more doesn't buy you a higher quality product, it buys you more complexity and more gimmicks that just break or it buys you wifi connectivity that they use to lock basic features behind subscriptions.

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