@maia yes ma'am

@pup @0xabad1dea @isotopp @enejjohhem well, on one hand you're correct that these laws are ment to have a chilling effect on queer activity. as such i'll bring this up in the discussion thread. but this would mean the threat model of the server (or room or whatever) would have to encompass both "a troll joins and starts telling people to kill themselves" (depressingly common) and "the united states or brittish government decides to target this specific chatroom in particular for censure" (theoretical), two threats very hard to defend against simultaneously. i think that an apt comparison here might be piracy, mainly because it's a direct but small threat to capital that the united states government has already mobilized against. the second reason why i think piracy is an apt comparison is that the community members can talk about how to pirate things publicly in the discord right now without discord using their panoptic vision and automatic moderation to smite us to hell. given the extra leeway of running the community out of the admin's private server rather then discord, getting special attention from the cops will probably seem like a pretty remote possibility. nonetheless, i'll push for us to have plans in place in order to migrate to signal or similar if such attacks against individual communities seem to be on the horizon.

@pup @0xabad1dea @isotopp @enejjohhem i'm not trying to like attack you with a rhetorical question, one of the communities i'm in is planning for what happens if they migrate to a different service and i need to know if this is something we should be preparing for.

@pup @0xabad1dea @isotopp @enejjohhem is there precedent for governments subpoenaing chatroom servers in order to Get pseudonymous queers who aren't planning anything other then the continued existence of the specific community represented by that chatroom? serious question.