@rasmus91 @Gurre I feel like Denmark are doing a lot of things right in general.

As far as I know (correct me if I am wrong), Denmark decided to make e-mail encryption mandatory, and then relied on this existing decentralized technology for sensitive communication from the government, for example.

What did Sweden do? Well, we now have private companies like Kivra providing "secure inboxes" for people. Completely centralized, and with some proprietary (although open) protocol.

@troed Fingers crossed! Thanks for sharing

@tml Yeah, great point!

@kevin Indeed, great point!

@Changaco Thanks! That makes me very hopeful.

I want to stress that this is obviously not Jolla's fault, but rather an unfortunate side effect of payment solutions being pushed by banks and other corporate entities which do not care about inclusivity in the digital space.

All payment solutions as well as digital identification *must* be completely open spec for anyone to implement, otherwise they are flawed by design.

Of course, the irony here is that this will likely just end up getting rid of one US based duopoly in favor of strengthening another one (Apple and Google).

European alternatives such as #Jolla are effectively locked out of these solutions, because they have too little market share, and these payment solutions are not open spec whatsoever.

No one is talking about how to break that status quo. Why would anyone want to get a phone/OS combo that locks you out of fundamental things in society?

RE: https://social.lansky.name/@hn100/116047223853314925

While it's obviously good that the EU becomes more independent from the US, the focus on having this be a software based solution is scary.

We can already see in Sweden, how Swish has created digital exclusion, where some people cannot pay for products and services, just because they have the wrong/too old phone.

Cards might not be perfect, but at least they are ~20€/year pieces of plastic, not 500€ phones that can become unsupported at any point in time.