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When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

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  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

    @randahl
    Also ESPECIALLY Franchises and physical services such as fastfood, coffee, delivery, rentals, ride hail, Hilton etc. These are parasites. They underpay, use fake royalties and other schemes to export profits without or little tax. They often require a local to rent the premises and put up capital.

    Actually BAN the stupid parasites.

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    #49

    @raymaccarthy until then, EU consumers should simply boycott them all [I'm doing my part, had budgeted around €3.500 to be spent in 2025 on US products and services, ended up spending only €123 because of contracts/subscriptions I couldn't stop until February, after that it dried up and in 2026 I will spend zero).
    @randahl

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    • iinac@climatejustice.socialI iinac@climatejustice.social

      @randahl

      If Trump is seriously threatened by EU sanctions, especially those sanction effect the tech sector, he has the option of switching Europe off.

      He can switch off at will any European or EU government or agency selectively. He can shut down any company or group of companies.

      Literally, those organisations would switch on their computers and nothing would work. Or he could just shut down access to data. Or flight bookings. Or whatever he and the technokings decide.

      https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html

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      #50

      @iinac @randahl
      A simple question is why should Europe sanction American digital services?
      The current situation leads every reasonably thinking European citizen to find alternative analog and digital products.
      So if these alternatives have a wide user base will evolve and become better, compared to what they are now.
      So if people get used to these alternatives, then there is no way back.

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      • margadil@social.vivaldi.netM margadil@social.vivaldi.net

        @iinac @randahl
        A simple question is why should Europe sanction American digital services?
        The current situation leads every reasonably thinking European citizen to find alternative analog and digital products.
        So if these alternatives have a wide user base will evolve and become better, compared to what they are now.
        So if people get used to these alternatives, then there is no way back.

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        #51

        @margadil @randahl

        I agree. That's what should happen. Brazil have gone down this road and developed much more independent digital services. I'm not sure what analogue services remain.

        The problem is Europeans haven't got alternatives. It is easier to find Indian IT alternative services than European ones.

        The US could literally switch your phone off, stop mapping services, shutdown email systems, cloud storage, switch off business finance software, sales platforms, even specialist software such as video editing, defense systems or social media etc etc.

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        • alister@hachyderm.ioA alister@hachyderm.io

          @randahl The Danes could simply decide to not sell the USA any more Ozempic (or reduce it by 90%, leaving legitimate medical need untouched - same for all the insulin they sell to the USA).
          See how loudly people start screaming to the government for their GLP-1

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          @alister @randahl 100% of the viagra used in the US is produced in Ireland. The GOP likely takes more of that than Ozempic.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

            Tariffs on Amazon and Facebook incentivises a digital decoupling from the the US, it shows Trump's oligarchs, that supporting Trump is the road to ruin, while NOT preventing the poor from putting food on the table.

            Hit those Zuckerbergs.

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            #53

            @randahl And as a bonus maybe I won't have to use fucking Teams or Outlook any more, free at last.

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

              Tariffs on Amazon and Facebook incentivises a digital decoupling from the the US, it shows Trump's oligarchs, that supporting Trump is the road to ruin, while NOT preventing the poor from putting food on the table.

              Hit those Zuckerbergs.

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              #54

              @randahl you know, maybe you could have picked one of the many non-Jews among the tech billionaires for Trump for that last slogan? Especially considering that Zuckerberg was the one who looked really visibly miserable during the inauguration defilé of the tech billionaires

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              • nicolai@babka.socialN nicolai@babka.social

                @randahl you know, maybe you could have picked one of the many non-Jews among the tech billionaires for Trump for that last slogan? Especially considering that Zuckerberg was the one who looked really visibly miserable during the inauguration defilé of the tech billionaires

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                #55

                @nicolai At Trump's request, Mark Zuckerberg removed all moderation on Facebook to give way to more disinformation.

                We owe him nothing.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  @nicolai At Trump's request, Mark Zuckerberg removed all moderation on Facebook to give way to more disinformation.

                  We owe him nothing.

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                  @randahl you don’t owe it to Zuckerberg, you owe it to your own humanity and to that of Jews everywhere. Singling out a Jew for a nefarious position within a group of non-Jews and using him pars pro toto fuels antisemitism

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                  • nicolai@babka.socialN nicolai@babka.social

                    @randahl you don’t owe it to Zuckerberg, you owe it to your own humanity and to that of Jews everywhere. Singling out a Jew for a nefarious position within a group of non-Jews and using him pars pro toto fuels antisemitism

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                    #57

                    @randahl is a difference if we call it the tech billionaires (and Zuckerberg is one of them) or if we say „the Zuckerbergs“

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                    • carsten@minnesotasocial.netC carsten@minnesotasocial.net

                      @randahl and maybe small action for everyone... Download and share to other social media... Have your kids make a tiktok...

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                      #58

                      @carsten @randahl we should punish the orange baboon as long as

                      - he is at the office
                      - Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg and all billionare fellows are not taxed hard

                      by boycott all US products and services

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