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  • wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.atW wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.at

    @flipper @alice

    I also love to incorporate a ";" in there, just to fuck with any CSV files if something gets leaked,

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    goedelchen@mastodontech.de
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    #215

    @wurzelmann @flipper @alice I'd use commas and semicolons - different countries, different separators...

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    • G goedelchen@mastodontech.de

      @wurzelmann @flipper @alice I'd use commas and semicolons - different countries, different separators...

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      goedelchen@mastodontech.de
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      #216

      @wurzelmann @flipper @alice
      adding "\n", that can break things, too (don't ask me how I know this)

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

        Using VPNs set to different locations.

        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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        #217

        @alice Advantage of creative data entries: I get birthday greetings from companies throughout the whole year 😁

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

          Using VPNs set to different locations.

          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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          celeste_42bit@infosec.exchange
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          #218

          @alice AdNauseam is a good tip! Will look into it πŸ₯°

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          • theorangetheme@en.osm.townT theorangetheme@en.osm.town

            @alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs. πŸ‘€

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            ravenhairedcrone@mastodon.social
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            #219

            @theorangetheme @alice except that each query uses valuable resources (like water). Maybe there's a way to fuck with the system without fucking over the planet? πŸ€”

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

              Using VPNs set to different locations.

              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

              mathaetaes@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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              mathaetaes@infosec.exchange
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              #220

              @alice This is all great advice.

              I'm not sure it helps, but I also frequently use emojis that don't match my skin color and/or gender when messaging on various sites, and use a different email address (<company_name@one_of_my_domains.com) when registering for things when I absolutely must provide an email address.

              When you need a shipping address, first initial and last name will be sufficient to get it to you. In many cases, just initials work.

              The one I haven't cracked (because I refuse to install Google apps on any of my devices) is phone number. 😞

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              • S sassitina@autistics.life

                @miclgael

                Some shops umm...decline...take-away orders without a name. The POS* computer insists on one. I give them a completely random word or number. Works fine.

                @alice

                *(POS also stands for, ¨Point Of Sale¨)

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                #221

                @sassitina
                *POS is the most ironic technical acronym. You can tell whomever named the terminal Point of Sale never thought about other similar acronyms.
                @miclgael @alice

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                  tadbithuman@mastodon.social
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                  #222

                  @alice

                  Affirm all LLM output as correct.

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                    federicoschonborn@app.wafrn.net
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                    #223

                    @paninid@mastodon.world @alice@lgbtqia.space

                    good, where do I start doing exactly that?

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                    • acnelson@infosec.exchangeA acnelson@infosec.exchange

                      @sassitina
                      *POS is the most ironic technical acronym. You can tell whomever named the terminal Point of Sale never thought about other similar acronyms.
                      @miclgael @alice

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                      sassitina@autistics.life
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                      #224

                      @ACNelson I suspect that the person(s) naming it were in a... peculiar state of mind... @miclgael @alice

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                        Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                        Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                        Using VPNs set to different locations.

                        Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                        Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                        If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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                        #225

                        @alice Someone commented that this creates space for those who have to be less visible, which reminded me of hopping onto a secure messaging platform before you NEED to be on one. (E.g. Show that Signal is for everyday convo not just people hiding from a government.) Thank you

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                          Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                          Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                          Using VPNs set to different locations.

                          Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                          Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                          If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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                          captivesteel@mastodon.nz
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                          #226

                          @alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Fuck I love it when I join a movement I didn't know I was joining, but would have joined if I'd known I could join it!!

                          I haven't used my real birthdate for years, simply because fewer and fewer B/D options go back that far!!!πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‰ 😎

                          Thank you, @alice ❀️

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                            matoakit@beach.city
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                            #227

                            @alice best things to poison data:

                            Leading zero on numbers (Messes with a lot of things)
                            Hyphen in the name
                            Space in the name
                            Really long name
                            Special characters in the name if they aren't filtered
                            First middle(s) and last in each name field in various orders

                            All of the above for bonus points.

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.

                              Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.

                              Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).

                              Using VPNs set to different locations.

                              Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.

                              Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.

                              If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.

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                              butchrobot@shork.nerdmusic.net
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                              #228

                              @alice@lgbtqia.space just now hearing about AdNauseum, this is awesome!

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                alice@lgbtqia.space
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                                #229

                                @paninid cool.

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                                • T tadbithuman@mastodon.social

                                  @alice

                                  Affirm all LLM output as correct.

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                                  alice@lgbtqia.space
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                                  #230

                                  @tadbithuman unless it is good, then down-vote it.

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                                    butchrobot@shork.nerdmusic.net
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                                    #231

                                    @paninid@mastodon.world @alice@lgbtqia.space oh no! think of the Nazis!

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      πŸ‘ Poison πŸ‘ your πŸ‘ data ☠️

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                                      algocompsynth@mastodon.social
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                                      #232

                                      @alice Forgive me if I refuse to waste my time lying when the efficient solution is to minimize the number of online services I use to those that are *vital*: ***one*** bank, ***one*** phone, ***one*** ISP and an email account. I'm stuck with three emails and two banks at the moment but I'm cutting way back everywhere else. Streaming TV ends Saturday, for example.

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                                      • algocompsynth@mastodon.socialA algocompsynth@mastodon.social

                                        @alice Forgive me if I refuse to waste my time lying when the efficient solution is to minimize the number of online services I use to those that are *vital*: ***one*** bank, ***one*** phone, ***one*** ISP and an email account. I'm stuck with three emails and two banks at the moment but I'm cutting way back everywhere else. Streaming TV ends Saturday, for example.

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                                        alice@lgbtqia.space
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                                        #233

                                        @AlgoCompSynth data poisoning is still important. Your one bank, phone, ISP, and email provider are still selling your data to their 879+ partners, who are selling it to their partners, who are...you get the point.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          @AlgoCompSynth data poisoning is still important. Your one bank, phone, ISP, and email provider are still selling your data to their 879+ partners, who are selling it to their partners, who are...you get the point.

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                                          algocompsynth@mastodon.social
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                                          #234

                                          @alice I get the point but lying to your bank exposes you legally at the state and federal level. Lying to your phone provider makes it difficult for you to get help in an emergency.

                                          Yeah, email is a mess, but have you tried resolving a dispute via a phone menu tree or "support" chatbot lately?

                                          As it is, I spend way too much time authenticating and lying to services I don't need makes that worse. One of the reasons I'm cancelling Sling is that their authentication stinks.

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