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Stop saying stupid stuff like: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

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  • wood5y@mastodonapp.ukW wood5y@mastodonapp.uk

    @Pamela1960 @Tutanota I countered a friend with that very same argument down the pub.

    His reply:"I don't care!"

    What an idiot.

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    #34

    @wood5y @Tutanota With friends like that, who needs intelligent conversation.

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

      Start saying:
      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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      #35

      @Tutanota The first phrase can often be followed by a «why are you doxxing me?» and the retort «why would you want your address and phone number hidden?»

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

        Start saying:
        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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        #36

        @Tutanota Everyone has something to hide, when you go to the Toilet you hide yourself!

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          Stop saying stupid stuff like:
          "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

          Start saying:
          "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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          #37

          @Tutanota I have nothing to hide, only from people that I know and trust. #privacy is a duty, not a right.

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Stop saying stupid stuff like:
            "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

            Start saying:
            "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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            #38

            @Tutanota Honestly, even the hardcore capitalists should understand that secrets leaking out can absolutely wreck your business. It's wild that Zuckerberg can buy the land around his Hawaii mansion, just so people can't see what's going on on his land, all while selling creepglasses.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              Stop saying stupid stuff like:
              "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

              Start saying:
              "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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              #39

              @Tutanota In particular, in a free country you do not have to carry ID with you, you cannot be stopped on the street and asked for "papers please", and you cannot be arrested for not having them with you.

              (I'm looking at you, France.)

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                Start saying:
                "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                #40

                @Tutanota Motorists are not innocent, they are psychotic murderers.

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  @Tutanota

                  "I am fine with surveillance, I haven't done anything wrong"
                  Second person "until someone changes the definition of 'wrong' ."

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                  #41

                  @Npars01 @Tutanota ew slop

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                    Start saying:
                    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                    #42

                    @Tutanota agree! but, if I'm not tracking you, I can't know if you are innocent!! 😉

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                      Start saying:
                      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                      #43

                      @Tutanota
                      There are thousands of laws, rules, and regulations, federal, state, and local, that you could be unknowingly in violation of. Constant surveillance will expose an excuse to apprehend you.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                        Start saying:
                        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                        the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #44

                        @Tutanota One could even say, a serious, rational and legitimate government, wouldn't need a surveillance if such government was open and had nothing to hide from its citizens.

                        (This also makes stalking legal)

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                        • kittenkoder@mastodon.socialK kittenkoder@mastodon.social

                          @Tutanota Motorists are not innocent, they are psychotic murderers.

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                          #45

                          @KittenKoder @Tutanota Less guns = less violence as well, by the way 😉

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                            "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                            Start saying:
                            "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                            #46

                            @Tutanota @chadmccullough "it's not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see."

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                            • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                              @KittenKoder @Tutanota Less guns = less violence as well, by the way 😉

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                              #47

                              @The_Universality Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math.

                              If you psychotic motorists want the majority of the people to care about the cameras, maybe put in decent sidewalks and protected bike lanes. Stop parking along the streets, and stop murdering people. Slow the fuck down.

                              Then we might be where the cameras are.

                              @Tutanota

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                              • kittenkoder@mastodon.socialK kittenkoder@mastodon.social

                                @The_Universality Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math.

                                If you psychotic motorists want the majority of the people to care about the cameras, maybe put in decent sidewalks and protected bike lanes. Stop parking along the streets, and stop murdering people. Slow the fuck down.

                                Then we might be where the cameras are.

                                @Tutanota

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                                #48

                                @KittenKoder @Tutanota
                                "Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math"
                                This is very uneducated and short-sided from your sight.

                                Less weapons means less lawful citizens being able to protect themselves against criminals. (who as you might guess are cowards attacking those who they deem less likely to be able to stand their ground)

                                Look at the Wild West, for example.
                                (Not the movies, but the reality of Wild West.)

                                Crims will rethink whether to rob armed one.
                                1/2

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                                • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                  @KittenKoder @Tutanota
                                  "Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math"
                                  This is very uneducated and short-sided from your sight.

                                  Less weapons means less lawful citizens being able to protect themselves against criminals. (who as you might guess are cowards attacking those who they deem less likely to be able to stand their ground)

                                  Look at the Wild West, for example.
                                  (Not the movies, but the reality of Wild West.)

                                  Crims will rethink whether to rob armed one.
                                  1/2

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                                  #49

                                  @The_Universality Holy shit, you're doing the fallacy, the "good guy with a gun" trope is a fucking fallacy because it happens less than mass shootings do.

                                  Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns.

                                  @Tutanota

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                                  • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                    @KittenKoder @Tutanota
                                    "Less guns will result in fewer murders by guns though, that's just basic math"
                                    This is very uneducated and short-sided from your sight.

                                    Less weapons means less lawful citizens being able to protect themselves against criminals. (who as you might guess are cowards attacking those who they deem less likely to be able to stand their ground)

                                    Look at the Wild West, for example.
                                    (Not the movies, but the reality of Wild West.)

                                    Crims will rethink whether to rob armed one.
                                    1/2

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                                    #50

                                    @KittenKoder @Tutanota

                                    As for motorists, yes we should make personal motor transport the least desirable option (at least in cities) and invest in public transport. As it is better and we wouldn't be using the precious oil for something as stupid as burning it to move few km(s).

                                    But, that doesn't make all motorists psychotic.

                                    (2/2)

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                                    • the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.comT the_universality@mastodon.novotnykrystof.com

                                      @KittenKoder @Tutanota

                                      As for motorists, yes we should make personal motor transport the least desirable option (at least in cities) and invest in public transport. As it is better and we wouldn't be using the precious oil for something as stupid as burning it to move few km(s).

                                      But, that doesn't make all motorists psychotic.

                                      (2/2)

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                                      #51

                                      @The_Universality The use of a car makes you weak and pathetically enslaved to the capitalists. You are destroying the planet just so you can waste your body away sitting all day doing nothing.

                                      Also, you just proved you're psychotic.

                                      @Tutanota

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                                      • kittenkoder@mastodon.socialK kittenkoder@mastodon.social

                                        @The_Universality Holy shit, you're doing the fallacy, the "good guy with a gun" trope is a fucking fallacy because it happens less than mass shootings do.

                                        Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns.

                                        @Tutanota

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                                        #52

                                        @KittenKoder

                                        "Also, the Wild West was a hellscape, it was horrible, people were miserable at that time because of all the guns."

                                        That is not true. Please research.

                                        As for the mass shootings, consider the fact, that most of those shootings happen because those who were attacked had no weapons to protect themselves with.

                                        It indeed may sound illogical at first for more weapons to cause more peace, but this was proved multiple times.

                                        Here's a book regarding this:
                                        https://dn720006.ca.archive.org/0/items/english-collections-k-z/More%20Guns%2C%20Less%20Crime_%20Understanding%20Cri%20-%20John%20R.%20Lott%20Jr_.pdf

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                          "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                          Start saying:
                                          "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

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                                          #53

                                          @Tutanota

                                          Unless it's the government, which is supposed to be open:

                                          "US Treasury Bars Reporters From G20 Finance Meeting"
                                          https://piqmarkets.com/story/treasury-bars-reporters-from-g20-finance-meeting

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