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Imagine a stranger spreads lies about you.

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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    Imagine a stranger spreads lies about you. They tell people you're doing horrible depraved crimes. Would you just block them?

    What happens when other people don't block them? When other people believe the lies and share them?

    What if this turns into real life abuse and violence against you and your family?

    This is what vulnerable groups face from bigots. Bigoted accounts need to be shut down, servers which refuse to remove bigots should be defederated.

    "Just block them" doesn't work.

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    #64

    p.s. If anyone wants a specific real life example of this actually happening, here is one:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

    TL:DR -

    A black grandfather played with his white grandchildren in the park, their family videoed it as it was a wholesome scene.

    Far right racists stole the video and lied about its context, claiming it was actually an immigrant trying to abduct kids. The video and lies were shared to millions of people. The innocent grandfather is threatened in the street and lives in fear.

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    • haui@mastodon.giftedmc.comH haui@mastodon.giftedmc.com

      @zotheca
      Yikes. Theres a lot to unpack here.

      First of all, nice strawman! You definitely know that your fake criticism does not adress anything that was written and only tries to trigger people.

      Second, mixing antisemitism allegations in a discussion is no red flag AT ALL, right?

      I suggest you walk along. I dont think we have anything constructive to discuss.
      @alex @FediTips

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      #65

      @haui

      „I suggest you walk along. I dont think we have anything constructive to discuss.“

      I suggest you start with yourself and simply don't respond.

      @alex @FediTips

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      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

        Imagine a stranger spreads lies about you. They tell people you're doing horrible depraved crimes. Would you just block them?

        What happens when other people don't block them? When other people believe the lies and share them?

        What if this turns into real life abuse and violence against you and your family?

        This is what vulnerable groups face from bigots. Bigoted accounts need to be shut down, servers which refuse to remove bigots should be defederated.

        "Just block them" doesn't work.

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        #66

        @FediTips Thank you for calling it out and making this recommendation 👍

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        • zotheca@mementomori.socialZ zotheca@mementomori.social

          @haui

          „I suggest you walk along. I dont think we have anything constructive to discuss.“

          I suggest you start with yourself and simply don't respond.

          @alex @FediTips

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          #67

          @zotheca
          Not in this life pal. Trolls get whacked.
          @alex @FediTips

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.s. If anyone wants a specific real life example of this actually happening, here is one:

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

            TL:DR -

            A black grandfather played with his white grandchildren in the park, their family videoed it as it was a wholesome scene.

            Far right racists stole the video and lied about its context, claiming it was actually an immigrant trying to abduct kids. The video and lies were shared to millions of people. The innocent grandfather is threatened in the street and lives in fear.

            pflege42@hostsharing.coopP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #68

            @FediTips
            Racists post and "the video and lies were shared millions of times."
            Meta and Musk make profits out oft racism.

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            • matty@blahaj.zoneM matty@blahaj.zone

              @FediTips@social.growyourown.services And also strangers mansplaining about how the Fediverse is decentralise when anyone brings up about being harassed on here.

              I don't think they intend to be malicious doing it and think their being helpful but it a equivalent of reading a brochure and talking about stuff in there like it's groundbreaking to people that.. well, already have read it or know about it as it basic fact unless you're a newbie.

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              #69

              @matty @FediTips Yup. Anyone who's been here more that 5 minutes knows how backarseward the reporting flow is (you MUST bother your moderators with every issue, you MAY optionally copy in the dickhead's moderators who can actually do something about them).

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.s. If anyone wants a specific real life example of this actually happening, here is one:

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

                TL:DR -

                A black grandfather played with his white grandchildren in the park, their family videoed it as it was a wholesome scene.

                Far right racists stole the video and lied about its context, claiming it was actually an immigrant trying to abduct kids. The video and lies were shared to millions of people. The innocent grandfather is threatened in the street and lives in fear.

                jiangshanghan@slashine.onlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #70

                @FediTips This reminds me of Zheng Ling-hua, this 24-year-old girl with pink hair shared the joyful news of her graduate school acceptance at her grandfather's hospital bedside in July 2022, post the photo on social media. What should have been a heart-warming moment instead sparked a wave of online abuse. After months of battling online bullies, this once lively and cheerful girl ultimately took her own life.

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                • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                  @matty @FediTips Yup. Anyone who's been here more that 5 minutes knows how backarseward the reporting flow is (you MUST bother your moderators with every issue, you MAY optionally copy in the dickhead's moderators who can actually do something about them).

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                  #71

                  @woe2you @matty

                  The reason the forwarding is optional is because some abusers are on single-user servers that they control themselves, and have responded to reports by being even more abusive.

                  Some victims prefer not to forward it to the origin server if they suspect it is run by the abusers (or people sympathetic to the abuser).

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    @woe2you @matty

                    The reason the forwarding is optional is because some abusers are on single-user servers that they control themselves, and have responded to reports by being even more abusive.

                    Some victims prefer not to forward it to the origin server if they suspect it is run by the abusers (or people sympathetic to the abuser).

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                    #72

                    @FediTips @matty That's an edge case. Far more common that you'd want to report a bad actor to a well run instance but not add noise to your own mods' queue.

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      p.s. If anyone wants a specific real life example of this actually happening, here is one:

                      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

                      TL:DR -

                      A black grandfather played with his white grandchildren in the park, their family videoed it as it was a wholesome scene.

                      Far right racists stole the video and lied about its context, claiming it was actually an immigrant trying to abduct kids. The video and lies were shared to millions of people. The innocent grandfather is threatened in the street and lives in fear.

                      kimlockhartga@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #73

                      @FediTips my neighbor's son was nearly arrested in Walmart because his stepdaughter is white and he is Black. Someone called the police because they suspected a kidnapping. The poor little girl was traumatized and crying because the police were questioning her daddy.

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                      • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                        @FediTips my neighbor's son was nearly arrested in Walmart because his stepdaughter is white and he is Black. Someone called the police because they suspected a kidnapping. The poor little girl was traumatized and crying because the police were questioning her daddy.

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                        #74

                        @kimlockhartga

                        Horrible 😞

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