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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

    gardenia@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @aral @vicfroh Moi je continuerai d'utiliser Instagram. J'y ai toutes les informations en live sur ce qui se passe actuellement au #Liban . Ce qui n'est pas le cas ici ni dans nos médias.

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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      #3

      @aral @vicfroh is that image in the tweet AI?

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      • xiroux@zaidin.lgbtX xiroux@zaidin.lgbt

        @aral @vicfroh is that image in the tweet AI?

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        #4

        @xiroux @vicfroh I truly don’t know.

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        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

          @xiroux @vicfroh I truly don’t know.

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          #5

          @aral @vicfroh it is AI indeed. An article in Spanish from a fact checker site: https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20260304/una-imagen-muestra-el-funeral-de-las-ninas-que-han-muerto-en-el-ataque-de-estados-unidos-e-israel-a-iran/

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          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

            When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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            #6

            @aral @_elena @vicfroh This is why I firmly condemn people relying to these platforms only. You have no way to follow their content, despite using RSS like civil people, but platforms deny the access to public, to force you joining.
            This should be illegal, at least because when you publicly post on those platforms and you choose "public post", they say "it's available inside and outside the platform".
            And, well, automated scanners can access those contents indexing them, while humans can't!
            And no, it's not the same thing of blogs' member-only contents. That's a different matter.

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            • xiroux@zaidin.lgbtX xiroux@zaidin.lgbt

              @aral @vicfroh it is AI indeed. An article in Spanish from a fact checker site: https://maldita.es/malditobulo/20260304/una-imagen-muestra-el-funeral-de-las-ninas-que-han-muerto-en-el-ataque-de-estados-unidos-e-israel-a-iran/

              aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @xiroux @vicfroh Thanks, undoing my boost.

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                #8

                @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

                aral@mastodon.ar.alA zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ mkj@social.mkj.earthM whasdah@mastodon.socialW 4 Replies Last reply
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                • elettrona@poliversity.itE elettrona@poliversity.it

                  @aral @_elena @vicfroh This is why I firmly condemn people relying to these platforms only. You have no way to follow their content, despite using RSS like civil people, but platforms deny the access to public, to force you joining.
                  This should be illegal, at least because when you publicly post on those platforms and you choose "public post", they say "it's available inside and outside the platform".
                  And, well, automated scanners can access those contents indexing them, while humans can't!
                  And no, it's not the same thing of blogs' member-only contents. That's a different matter.

                  amorpheus@kind.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Simple concept of enshittification. You want information? Well, then you have to give us information about you or your service in exchange.

                  I can live without using corporate platforms.

                  What I find much more disturbing is the paywall of public newspapers. You get a short (sometimes misleading) abstract of a system relevant article, but you have to pay (or at least disable your ad blocker) to get the full information you require to build a reliable opinion.

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                    #10

                    @aral This also seems to be a thing on Bsky, although there it’s opt-in. Which means that people actively decide to exclude people not on the same platform. Seems to be considered a feature, not a bug. 🤷

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                      #11

                      @aral It's like paywalls only less honestly - meta takes your money less obviously by selling your life info, x makes you enable Nazis.

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                      • felwert@fedihum.orgF felwert@fedihum.org

                        @aral This also seems to be a thing on Bsky, although there it’s opt-in. Which means that people actively decide to exclude people not on the same platform. Seems to be considered a feature, not a bug. 🤷

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                        #12

                        @felwert @aral On Mastodon, you can make a post "only for followers," and we're fine with it. I can imagine that a user can decide on his personal level not to share their post with the open web. That's their choice.

                        (Though, the funny part is that it's more like a flag, and respecting it depends completely on the app, so if there is more traction for Bluesky, apps going around that might start popping up. Same for blocks.)

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                        • amorpheus@kind.socialA amorpheus@kind.social

                          @elettrona @aral @_elena @vicfroh Simple concept of enshittification. You want information? Well, then you have to give us information about you or your service in exchange.

                          I can live without using corporate platforms.

                          What I find much more disturbing is the paywall of public newspapers. You get a short (sometimes misleading) abstract of a system relevant article, but you have to pay (or at least disable your ad blocker) to get the full information you require to build a reliable opinion.

                          elettrona@poliversity.itE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @Amorpheus @aral @_elena @vicfroh About paywalls I'm giving subscriptions systems more possibilities. We must think of it. Writing or creating videos genuinely, cost. So paywalls are a way to work. Then, yes, if you have a clickbait or misunderstandable/false abstract to force you to pay, that's called scam

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                          • krazov@mstdn.socialK krazov@mstdn.social

                            @felwert @aral On Mastodon, you can make a post "only for followers," and we're fine with it. I can imagine that a user can decide on his personal level not to share their post with the open web. That's their choice.

                            (Though, the funny part is that it's more like a flag, and respecting it depends completely on the app, so if there is more traction for Bluesky, apps going around that might start popping up. Same for blocks.)

                            felwert@fedihum.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @Krazov @aral Sure, it’s their choice. I still find “has a Bluesky account” a weird scope for privacy.

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                              #15

                              @aral and this is what it looks like to people who prevent their browser from even connecting to these platforms:

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                                May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

                                aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #16

                                @_elena Of course 🙂

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                                • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                  When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                  #17

                                  @aral That’s why I post to micro.blog and then share a link to my post instead

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                    #18

                                    @aral This is what I've been trying to emphasise to friends who remain in walled-off corporate sites. It's also got to the point where Google's purchase of YouTube (which some of us have memory of) developed a monopoly on video, and now when I visit websites still using that to embed videos, I can't play any of them because I have to be signed in. (And I can't always be bothered to use front-ends etc and hey why should I)

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      @aral I'm actually writing a blog post arguing that public institutions should start seeing the Fediverse as the ideal publishing platform for sharing communications with their constituents.

                                      May I quote your post, this is super relevant?

                                      zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #19

                                      @_elena
                                      Will you be present at https://www.fedivariety.org/unconference ?
                                      @aral

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                                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                        When you post things on Instagram, Facebook, and X, this is what they look like to people who don’t use those platforms.

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                                        #20

                                        @aral
                                        Pro tip:
                                        Swap x.com for xcancel.com (including the rest of the URL) and it’ll load the tweet and replies without being logged in.

                                        The same thing works (with less reliability) by swapping instagram.com with imginn.com (again, keeping the rest of the URL).

                                        I use Apple Shortcuts to do these actions automatically:
                                        Twitter: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/06a82b30a77b4ba8834c85a28093c241
                                        Instagram: https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/37da2bbbc7e341d2acb23c8dd73d0f14

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                                        • zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ zipkid@gts.solfood.be

                                          @_elena
                                          Will you be present at https://www.fedivariety.org/unconference ?
                                          @aral

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                                          #21

                                          @zipkid @_elena I hadn’t heard of it but likely not, no. Funds are tight at the moment and I have to deliver on the Small Web this year (self imposed deadline).

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