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  3. I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source.

I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source.

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  • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

    I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source. I made freezer jam today, so it wasn't really important, but I saw some real doozies when looking for a recipe.
    One said "remove as many stones as you desire", as if there's a smooth vs crunchy debate re plum pits in your jam.
    #food

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    #9

    @dillyd don't plum pits, like peach pits, have cyanide in them? Like minuscule amounts but like why take the chance.

    Also, I don't like my jam crunchy. Even raspberry jam skeeves me out with the seeds in it

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    • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

      @dillyd
      Thats a pretty stupid reason, but if you are talking about fruit preserves then the acidity makes botulinum unviable in most cases, there are very reputable preserves recipes where you cook the mix at a boil, pour into sanitized jars and put a lid on with no further processing. dont buy what that lady is selling but also dont write off recipes just because they dont have a second processing stage.

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      #10

      @dillyd
      If its not pressurized in a pressure cooker you can't kill botulinum with heat anyway. its the acidity thats protecting you.

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      • somcak@beige.partyS somcak@beige.party

        @dillyd don't plum pits, like peach pits, have cyanide in them? Like minuscule amounts but like why take the chance.

        Also, I don't like my jam crunchy. Even raspberry jam skeeves me out with the seeds in it

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        #11

        @somcak totally! Always sticking in your teeth. I never liked that either.

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        • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

          Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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          #12

          @dillyd My relatives would strongly disagree. The kitchen became a level of hell with heat, from sterilizing the jars, to hot wax plugs, to the lids sealing b/c of the jar's heat. Not a canner. Just watched some of the process when I wasn't kicked out of the kitchen for being a kid getting on their nerves. They probably had me help at times, but I don't recall.

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          • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

            Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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            #13

            @dillyd
            WTAF....

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            • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

              Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

              mangotable@famichiki.jpM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #14

              @dillyd There is a long deceased 8 yo relative of mine that would disagree with that woman. Botulism killed him.

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              • mangotable@famichiki.jpM mangotable@famichiki.jp

                @dillyd There is a long deceased 8 yo relative of mine that would disagree with that woman. Botulism killed him.

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                #15

                @mangotable oh I'm so sorry!

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                • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                  Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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                  #16

                  @dillyd I'm making plum jam next week and will be following the Farm Journal's guidance to the letter.

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                  • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                    @mangotable oh I'm so sorry!

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                    #17

                    @dillyd It was long ago in early 1910s but is an incident passed down generation to generation in our family as a reminder.

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                    • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                      I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source. I made freezer jam today, so it wasn't really important, but I saw some real doozies when looking for a recipe.
                      One said "remove as many stones as you desire", as if there's a smooth vs crunchy debate re plum pits in your jam.
                      #food

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                      #18

                      @dillyd Boba jam.

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                      • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                        Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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                        #19

                        @dillyd 😳🤦

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                        • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                          Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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                          #20

                          @dillyd woooow! I'm speechless

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                          • sunumbral@beige.partyS sunumbral@beige.party

                            @dillyd Boba jam.

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                            #21

                            @dillyd It looks delicious 😋. I need to get more ice cream to use up the last bit of mine.

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                            • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @dillyd
                              Thats a pretty stupid reason, but if you are talking about fruit preserves then the acidity makes botulinum unviable in most cases, there are very reputable preserves recipes where you cook the mix at a boil, pour into sanitized jars and put a lid on with no further processing. dont buy what that lady is selling but also dont write off recipes just because they dont have a second processing stage.

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                              #22

                              @dlakelan
                              Yeah, if she came to the right answer by the right reasoning, it would be one thing. It was really the "x number of deaths aren't important" and "do your own research" that bothered me.

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                              • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                                I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source. I made freezer jam today, so it wasn't really important, but I saw some real doozies when looking for a recipe.
                                One said "remove as many stones as you desire", as if there's a smooth vs crunchy debate re plum pits in your jam.
                                #food

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                                #23

                                @dillyd this is when I jump in with a nudge for anyone reading this that the usda guide to home canning is a great resource for food safety and basic recipes.

                                And while it’s always good to check periodically to see if it has been updated with new science-based guidance, the whole thing can be downloaded and saved/printed for quick reference!
                                https://nchfp.uga.edu/resources/category/usda-guide

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                                • sunumbral@beige.partyS sunumbral@beige.party

                                  @dillyd It looks delicious 😋. I need to get more ice cream to use up the last bit of mine.

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                                  #24

                                  @dillyd I'm taking care of some cats in a few days, and they have some Italian plums that might be ripe, they weren't last time I was there, but that didn't stop me from trying a few. Could there be more jam in my future? I should make a bigger batch and freeze some for winter oats and pancakes.

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                                  • sunumbral@beige.partyS sunumbral@beige.party

                                    @dillyd I'm taking care of some cats in a few days, and they have some Italian plums that might be ripe, they weren't last time I was there, but that didn't stop me from trying a few. Could there be more jam in my future? I should make a bigger batch and freeze some for winter oats and pancakes.

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                                    #25

                                    @sunumbral
                                    Mmm yum sounds good. Today I used my red plums. I have purple plums almost ready too, but I just used up all my jars.

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                                    • steter@mastodon.stevesworld.coS steter@mastodon.stevesworld.co

                                      @dillyd My relatives would strongly disagree. The kitchen became a level of hell with heat, from sterilizing the jars, to hot wax plugs, to the lids sealing b/c of the jar's heat. Not a canner. Just watched some of the process when I wasn't kicked out of the kitchen for being a kid getting on their nerves. They probably had me help at times, but I don't recall.

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                                      #26

                                      @steter @dillyd Sadly, I think recipe sites are some of the most bot / AI infested websites around.

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                                      • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                                        Another said she doesn't bother with the final heat processing stage for preserves. Because there are only x deaths per year from botulinum poisoning, out of a population of y million people, so it isn't really an issue. But she encourages the reader to "do your own research." 😱

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                                        #27

                                        @dillyd 🤬

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                                        • dillyd@turtleisland.socialD dillyd@turtleisland.social

                                          I know you all know this, but if you're doing food preserving, follow recipes from a reputable source. I made freezer jam today, so it wasn't really important, but I saw some real doozies when looking for a recipe.
                                          One said "remove as many stones as you desire", as if there's a smooth vs crunchy debate re plum pits in your jam.
                                          #food

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                                          #28

                                          @dillyd Currently, I have been pickling according to recipes from a cookbook older than me—a Mennonite cookbook.

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